BaL 10.07.21 - Bernstein: Chichester Psalms

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11763

    #16
    Originally posted by LHC View Post
    I remember several years ago talking to my then boss about a forthcoming BAL in which Ed Seckerson was going to review a Mahler symphony. My boss remarked that Seckerson would listen carefully to all the available recordings before choosing the Bernstein.
    Jurowski seems to be his new favourite Mahler conductor.

    I see ES did also choose the Bernstein/DFD Das Lied von Der Erde in 1997.

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11763

      #17
      Doesn't the Hickox include Aled Jones no less as the treble ?

      Amazed to read that he is now 50 - must be tough to have such a fabulous treble voice but such an ordinary voice after it has broken.

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      • richardfinegold
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        • Sep 2012
        • 7749

        #18
        Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
        Sang this more than half a century ago with Tay Cheng-Jim/LSO/Kertész. That was fun but I have since gone off the piece. Our chorus master, John Alldis, described the main theme of the last movement as a 'panto tune'. Was he right?
        What is a ‘panto tune’?

        I first heard this on television at the time of its composition, as the Public Arts TV Network in the States broadcast one the first performances. Then not again until the recent Bernstein Centennial year as I was playing through a Sony box set of LB conducting his own works. I enjoyed it immensely but am not looking to add another

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        • underthecountertenor
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          • Apr 2011
          • 1586

          #19
          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          Doesn't the Hickox include Aled Jones no less as the treble ?

          Amazed to read that he is now 50 - must be tough to have such a fabulous treble voice but such an ordinary voice after it has broken.
          Ordinary at best, but apparently very monetizable, so presumably he can live with the sadness.

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          • Cockney Sparrow
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            • Jan 2014
            • 2292

            #20
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            Doesn't the Hickox include Aled Jones no less as the treble ?

            Amazed to read that he is now 50 - must be tough to have such a fabulous treble voice but such an ordinary voice after it has broken.
            Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
            Ordinary at best, but apparently very monetizable, so presumably he can live with the sadness.
            I'm not sure whether Aled is in or out with the BBC "Songs of Praise" axis at the moment. But he appears (or appeared) on TV (compering and / or singing) in programmes with the likes of Michael Ball and Alfie Boe. I mean, he's lived the dream.....

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            • rauschwerk
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              • Nov 2010
              • 1482

              #21
              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
              What is a ‘panto tune’?
              I took it to mean a tune one might hear in a pantomime or other lowbrow entertainment. John was famous for doing highbrow contemporary stuff with his professional choir, so one can see where he was coming from.

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
                • 6964

                #22
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                Doesn't the Hickox include Aled Jones no less as the treble ?

                Amazed to read that he is now 50 - must be tough to have such a fabulous treble voice but such an ordinary voice after it has broken.
                Once saw him in a stage version of the musical White Christmas so I guess he has tracked all the way from Bernstein to Panto (though Irving Berlin’s music is better than panto)

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                • Darloboy
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                  • Jun 2019
                  • 335

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LHC View Post
                  I remember several years ago talking to my then boss about a forthcoming BAL in which Ed Seckerson was going to review a Mahler symphony. My boss remarked that Seckerson would listen carefully to all the available recordings before choosing the Bernstein.
                  Unless it's one of Bernstein's own recordings of his musicals/operettas with a bunch of hoity-toity opera singers which Mr Seckerson does not like AT ALL!

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                  • ardcarp
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11102

                    #24
                    Apropos of nothing much, I once attended a performance at the Southern Cathedrals Festival, conducted I think by John Birch. Salisbury, Winchester and Chichester [of course] made a fine job of it. This was not the original Chichester/Walter Hussey commission performance but a later repeat...at Winchester maybe? My memory fails!
                    Last edited by ardcarp; 01-07-21, 18:11.

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                    • Petrushka
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12332

                      #25
                      I've got NYPO/Bernstein and Bournemouth SO/Alsop.

                      For a library choice I can't really see any point in looking beyond one of the two Bernstein conducted versions so this BaL seems to me to be superfluous.
                      Last edited by Petrushka; 01-07-21, 19:46.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        #26
                        This may be of interest:

                        This book is the first full-length treatment of Walter Hussey's work as a patron between 1943 and 1978, first for the Anglican parish church of St Matthew in Northampton, and then at Chichester Cathedral. He was responsible for the most significant sequence of works of art commissioned for the British churches in the twentieth century. They included music by Benjamin Britten, Leonard Bernstein and William Walton, visual art by Henry Moore, Graham Sutherland and Marc Chagall, and poetry by W. H. Auden. Placing Hussey in theological context and in a period of rapid cultural change, it explores the making and reception of the commissions, and the longer-term influence of his work, still felt today. As well as contributing to the religious and cultural history of Britain, and of Anglo-Catholicism and the cathedrals in particular, the book will be of interest to all those concerned with the relationship between theology and the arts, and to historians of music and the visual arts.


                        Scroll around a bit to find Chichester Psalms commission and first performance details.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20575

                          #27
                          In anticipation of today’ broadcast, I’ve added a second King’s/Cleobury recording to the list (with thanks to Pulcinella for alerting me to a recording I’d overlooked).

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20575

                            #28
                            I know BaL reviewers can only express their own views/impressions, but when they assume superiority over the performers, that’s a step too far. ES seems to do that.

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                            • Goon525
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                              • Feb 2014
                              • 606

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              I know BaL reviewers can only express their own views/impressions, but when they assume superiority over the performers, that’s a step too far. ES seems to do that.
                              As it happens, I’m not ES’s biggest fan, but I think he’s demonstrated intimate knowledge of the work here, and properly explained his choices. No surprise whatever about the final selection, though.

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                              • Pulcinella
                                Host
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 11114

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                In anticipation of today’ broadcast, I’ve added a second King’s/Cleobury recording to the list (with thanks to Pulcinella for alerting me to a recording I’d overlooked).


                                Back momentarily (UK not US sense) to say that I hope some of the 'naysayers' actually listened to this edition, and (despite the annoyances of the twofer format) might even have been persuaded that it's a better piece of music than they thought.
                                Pleased with the winner, which I've always preferred to the later Israel remake.

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