BaL 1.05.21 - Haydn: Symphony no. 92 "Oxford"

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  • cloughie
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    • Dec 2011
    • 22115

    #16
    Two names from the past I always associate with Haydn are Mogens Woldike and Leslie Jones ( with the delightfully named Little Orchestra of London).

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    • jayne lee wilson
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      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      #17
      Originally posted by MickyD View Post
      I've never heard the Hanover Band/Goodman version - I recall that Goodman was rather fond of harpsichord or fortepiano continuo in his Haydn. Sad that this was another cycle that never got completed.
      CD/Download/Notes still all here......


      "The Hanover Band performs on period instruments at a pitch of A = 430Hz, and since I firmly believe that Haydn either played or expected a keyboard continuo instrument, I direct symphonies 1 to 92 from the harpsichord, and symphonies 93 to 104 from a Broadwood fortepiano, with the violins divided on opposite sides." (Roy Goodman).

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      • richardfinegold
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        • Sep 2012
        • 7656

        #18
        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
        Probably because it falls between the oftrecorded very familiar (and thereby popular) Paris and London sets, But it was very well done by Scherchen in the 50s (HIPPs avant la lettre perhaps, though vitally individual); and various later readings from Kuijken (as aforementioned here by veris), Bruggen, Harnoncourt, Jacobs and others, so there is much choice in interpretive shades......

        78-81 are another such marginalised group, often ignored but among Haydn's best and most inspired, innovative creations....
        I,ve mainly been listening to the early and middle period symphonies for several years and it seemed like not that many choices for this available via Qobuz, and scant HIPP offering

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        • jayne lee wilson
          Banned
          • Jul 2011
          • 10711

          #19
          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
          I,ve mainly been listening to the early and middle period symphonies for several years and it seemed like not that many choices for this available via Qobuz, and scant HIPP offering
          Fair selection here, from Scherchen to Klemperer, Szell to Bruggen and Jacobs....
          Qobuz is the world leader in 24-bit Hi-Res downloads, offering more than 100 million tracks for streaming in unequalled sound quality 24-Bit Hi-Res


          For a HIPPs-moderne refresher, try Van Zweden....
          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 17-04-21, 18:29.

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          • antongould
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            • Nov 2010
            • 8780

            #20
            One of my favourite symphonies ..... I have Klemperer and The New Philharmonia ......

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            • Bryn
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              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #21
              Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
              CD/Download/Notes still all here......


              "The Hanover Band performs on period instruments at a pitch of A = 430Hz, and since I firmly believe that Haydn either played or expected a keyboard continuo instrument, I direct symphonies 1 to 92 from the harpsichord, and symphonies 93 to 104 from a Broadwood fortepiano, with the violins divided on opposite sides." (Roy Goodman).
              I have most, if not all, of the Goodmans. I must listen to them again.

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              • MickyD
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                • Nov 2010
                • 4748

                #22
                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                CD/Download/Notes still all here......


                "The Hanover Band performs on period instruments at a pitch of A = 430Hz, and since I firmly believe that Haydn either played or expected a keyboard continuo instrument, I direct symphonies 1 to 92 from the harpsichord, and symphonies 93 to 104 from a Broadwood fortepiano, with the violins divided on opposite sides." (Roy Goodman).
                Thank you - reassuring to know my memory is still working well!

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                • MickyD
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4748

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  I have most, if not all, of the Goodmans. I must listen to them again.
                  I was so busy collecting the Hogwood set (very expensive at the time) that the Goodmans passed me by. Would be interested to hear what you think of them.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #24
                    Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                    I second the Abbado lament
                    It is a great pity, this.
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • Darloboy
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                      • Jun 2019
                      • 323

                      #25
                      Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                      Excellent Gramophone writer who really knows his Haydn and the Catalogue......
                      In the two centuries since his death Joseph Haydn has been scandalously underrated, argues Richard Wigmore


                      .....offers a choice (doubtless provisional) for No.92 at the end...
                      Interesting. I'm looking forward to this programme.

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                      • rauschwerk
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1480

                        #26
                        I have sampled AHHO/Fischer, Cleveland/Széll, Kuijken and Goodman. Their are many good things in the first two but both conductors are adherents of the old-fashioned stately minuet school and that now rules out both accounts for me. Kuijken, to my ears, is too often careless of balance so that when his trumpets and drums get going it can be hard to hear the fiddles properly. Therefore it's Goodman for me, even though the presence of the harpsichord is academic (could be my hearing loss, of course).

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                        • verismissimo
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2957

                          #27
                          I've been listening to my big band versions: VPO/Bernstein too self-indulgent; Cleveland/Szell not as interesting as I recall it; Hungarians/Dorati - spiffing, fresh as paint.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #28
                            Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                            I've been listening to my big band versions: VPO/Bernstein too self-indulgent; Cleveland/Szell not as interesting as I recall it; Hungarians/Dorati - spiffing, fresh as paint.
                            Was the Philharmonia Hungarica, as directed by Dorati, that big?

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11671

                              #29
                              I only have BPO/Rattle and Szell - I like them both a great deal. I think Rattle is an outstanding Haydn conductor.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                Was the Philharmonia Hungarica, as directed by Dorati, that big?
                                I recall that when the series began, it was considered quite small.

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