BaL 17.04.21 - Schumann: Piano Quintet in E flat

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  • DoctorT

    #61
    Hope I'm not going off piste here, but I would appreciate guidance from our resident experts as to which HIPP version I should invest in - preferably available as a single CD

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      #62
      Originally posted by DoctorT View Post
      Hope I'm not going off piste here, but I would appreciate guidance from our resident experts as to which HIPP version I should invest in - preferably available as a single CD
      It just has to be the Winter & Winter release with La Gaia Scienza - such precision and clarity, such drive and attack, but so light, dancing and expressive where it needs to be in excellent recorded sound. Lovely yellow hardback presentation of the physical disc to add to its attractions....



      I've loved Schumann and his chamber music for a long time. This is one of the best such releases, howsoever it is categorised.

      (....playing now.... these performers really do understand the piece - know how important that brief, shadowy passage is, between exposition repeat and development of (i), as it comes back in the funeral-march-style largamente....with very dramatic consequences....!..)

      ***
      If couplings are important to you - the Michelangelos on Chandos are also very good in Op.44, warmer and a little more relaxed (if less compelling & virtuoso) with more forward sound; they offer Op.47, whereas the Gay Science give you the Six Canonic Pieces Op.56...very lovely they are too.
      Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 19-04-21, 12:22.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26575

        #63
        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
        Thanks from me too: I'm taking the liberty of copying this to the 'The I wish.....' thread, for possible wider readership.
        And I, to move that post and the several that sprang from it, to the general thread
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #64
          I listened to the Guilda, Hagen Quartet recording,yesterday, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It’s the first time I’ve heard this work. I’m not well up on Schumann’s chamber music, so I am glad I had the opportunity to have a listen.
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22205

            #65
            Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
            I listened to the Guilda, Hagen Quartet recording,yesterday, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It’s the first time I’ve heard this work. I’m not well up on Schumann’s chamber music, so I am glad I had the opportunity to have a listen.
            Think what you’ve been missing all these years - probably in my top ten chamber pieces!

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #66
              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              Think what you’ve been missing all these years - probably in my top ten chamber pieces!
              Indeed. I never got to grips, with his chamber music before, his orchestral and piano music yes, but never his chamber music, until recently.
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11759

                #67
                Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
                Indeed. I never got to grips, with his chamber music before, his orchestral and piano music yes, but never his chamber music, until recently.
                I am rather baffled why we are now moving all criticism of the format to a general thread ? I often don’t catch BAL on a Saturday morning as I take my son to football training. I find it quite useful to hear from forumites if the format has blighted the BAL like this one it seems or that it has survived it .

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                • DoctorT

                  #68
                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  It just has to be the Winter & Winter release with La Gaia Scienza - such precision and clarity, such drive and attack, but so light, dancing and expressive where it needs to be in excellent recorded sound. Lovely yellow hardback presentation of the physical disc to add to its attractions....



                  I've loved Schumann and his chamber music for a long time. This is one of the best such releases, howsoever it is categorised.

                  (....playing now.... these performers really do understand the piece - know how important that brief, shadowy passage is, between exposition repeat and development of (i), as it comes back in the funeral-march-style largamente....with very dramatic consequences....!..)

                  ***
                  If couplings are important to you - the Michelangelos on Chandos are also very good in Op.44, warmer and a little more relaxed (if less compelling & virtuoso) with more forward sound; they offer Op.47, whereas the Gay Science give you the Six Canonic Pieces Op.56...very lovely they are too.
                  Many thanks Jayne: shall investigate!

                  Regards

                  Michael

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                  • Goon525
                    Full Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 606

                    #69
                    I listened to the ‘winner’ a couple of days ago, feeling personally that the exaggerated tempo shifts in the first movement disqualified it, although I enjoyed the rest. I then checked the first movement of Andsnes/Artemis, and felt it a much more sensible recommendation (I have heard it before). But a knowledgeable friend strongly recommended the Lugano Argerich 2003 (the one with R Capuçon), and I’ve just listened to it. He’s right - it’s superb, with tremendous drive and energy, leaving you in no doubt this is a great masterpiece. Obviously I haven’t heard them all, but this would be a solid modern instrument choice.

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Goon525 View Post
                      I listened to the ‘winner’ a couple of days ago, feeling personally that the exaggerated tempo shifts in the first movement disqualified it, although I enjoyed the rest. I then checked the first movement of Andsnes/Artemis, and felt it a much more sensible recommendation (I have heard it before). But a knowledgeable friend strongly recommended the Lugano Argerich 2003 (the one with R Capuçon), and I’ve just listened to it. He’s right - it’s superb, with tremendous drive and energy, leaving you in no doubt this is a great masterpiece. Obviously I haven’t heard them all, but this would be a solid modern instrument choice.
                      Like I said, above, I heard the Hagens, and Guilda, very good, imo.Very good indeed and natural.
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11759

                        #71
                        The Valli /Gaia scienza recording is very fine - stingy coupling though .

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                        • LeMartinPecheur
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4717

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                          The Valli /Gaia scienza recording is very fine - stingy coupling though .
                          Something from Hummel perhaps?
                          I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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