BaL 27.03.21 - Mozart: Piano Concerto no. 24 in C minor K.491

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  • jayne lee wilson
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    • Jul 2011
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    #61
    The Viviana Sofronitsky C Minor concerto (Qobuz lossless) is a surprisingly warm and Romantic-Expressive approach, HIPPs for the HIPPs-phobic perhaps (though the orchestra/strings/piano sound, tuning and character varies throughout this extensive ETCETERA set; no notes on Q., so I can't specify the intrumentarium).

    Mozart 24 does get a good performance from Viviana Sofronitsky here, the Varsovia band warm-toned and immediately appealing, the piano well-defined and alert with good orchestral clarity. All the same, a touch of blandness registers as the first movement proceeds; I would have liked more urgently-shaped direction from the conductor Karolak here, and there is not much dynamic subtlety.

    Taking the comparison to Brautigam/Willens (Qobuz 24/44.1 or SACD) soon reveals the latter as more briskly and precisely classical, with more distinctive instrumental and orchestral period-characters and textures. The dynamics are livelier in the exposition, the violins fierier in the tutti.
    Greater instrumental detail around the better defined fortepiano sound, and higher orchestral resolution and textural refinement (Excellent BIS sound - A1***). A stormier, more keenly defined coda to (i) on the BIS. Brautigam/Willens share the same vision of the piece, their partnership very close.

    The differences hold true of the whole performance; Brautigam/Willens livelier, more sensitive and subtler in the andante, if a little too brisk for some. ( Sofronitsky more espressivo-adagio here, but The Varsovia band a touch routine again, winds a bit too forward here, occasionally obscuring piano detail.)
    In the finale, one notes that Sofronitsky can seem somewhat anonymous through passagework, which Brautigam never does: his every phrase counts (as with most of his cycle). Willens is more sensitive to detail of phrase and micro dynamics in his Kölner orchestra, to really expressive effect, keeping the music alive moment-to-moment without any exaggeration or over-emphasis.

    So I prefer Brautigam in this work, from a cycle that has become (among several modern and HIPPs recordings) my reference: it is remarkably consistent in its interpretive freshness and interest; almost faultless sound. (Letting No.25 play on after the C Minor only reignites my enthusiasm! Stunning recording again, in every way.)

    Your own such leanings will be as usual according to taste, both orchestral and pianistic; perhaps preferring Sofronitsky/Karolak if you usually usually prefer a modern-instrumental or more overtly expressive approach.

    All there on Qobuz to listen for yourself.

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    • Bryn
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      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #62
      Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
      The Viviana Sofronitsky C Minor concerto (Qobuz lossless) is a surprisingly warm and Romantic-Expressive approach, HIPPs for the HIPPs-phobic perhaps (though the orchestra/strings/piano sound, tuning and character varies throughout this extensive ETCETERA set; no notes on Q., so I can't specify the intrumentarium).
      She plays one of hubby's instruments. Same builder as Brautigam.

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      • MickyD
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        • Nov 2010
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        #63
        I'm awaiting the Sofronitsky box which I found cheaply last week. But I know myself only too well, I feel sure that I will be getting hold of Brautigam as well, for I love pretty much everything that he does.

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
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          #64
          Originally posted by MickyD View Post
          I'm awaiting the Sofronitsky box which I found cheaply last week. But I know myself only too well, I feel sure that I will be getting hold of Brautigam as well, for I love pretty much everything that he does.
          ... o you must, Micky, you must. I agree with jayne here : it is wonderful.

          And it's an instance where BIS has done what I hoped for - I held off from buying the individual CDs in the hope that a cheaper box wd eventuate - as you and I (forlornly, perhaps?) wish wd be the case with the Spanyi CPE Bach.

          So the least that you can do - to encourage BIS in these projects - is to get the Brautigam Mozart...

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          • Bryn
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            • Mar 2007
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            #65
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            ... o you must, Micky, you must. I agree with jayne here : it is wonderful.

            And it's an instance where BIS has done what I hoped for - I held off from buying the individual CDs in the hope that a cheaper box wd eventuate - as you and I (forlornly, perhaps?) wish wd be the case with the Spanyi CPE Bach.

            So the least that you can do - to encourage BIS in these projects - is to get the Brautigam Mozart...

            As with the Beethoven solo piano music, I chose not to wait, and have no regrets, apart from the increased storage space occupation.

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            • vinteuil
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              • Nov 2010
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              #66
              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              As with the Beethoven solo piano music, I chose not to wait, and have no regrets, apart from the increased storage space occupation.
              ... yes, I too got the Brautigam Beethoven individually as they came out - I deemed them 'essential'



              The Brautigam Mozart box is nicely done - you get the full liner booklets for each disc, which look as if they are the same as the liners for the individual issues.

              .

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              • silvestrione
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                • Jan 2011
                • 1703

                #67
                Yes I very much enjoyed the Brautigam. As Jane says I think, it tends towards the robust and vigorous, though nothing wrong with that, and the slow movement is brisk. I loved the decoration he introduces into the melodic line towards the end of the slow movement, and the stormy/tragic passages in the last movement are terrific. A tasteful little cadenza to lead into the coda, which has all the pathos and drama you could wish for. I agree that here conductor, soloist and orchestra seem at one.

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                • MickyD
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  ... yes, I too got the Brautigam Beethoven individually as they came out - I deemed them 'essential'



                  The Brautigam Mozart box is nicely done - you get the full liner booklets for each disc, which look as if they are the same as the liners for the individual issues.

                  .
                  Now you really ARE tempting me, and I haven't even received the Sofronitsky set yet! And oh yes, would that BIS box up all that wonderful CPE Bach series - it will be top of my shopping list if they ever get round to it, along with all the solo keyboard works by Spanyi as well.
                  Last edited by MickyD; 27-03-21, 10:32.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20570

                    #69
                    A very good start to this BaL, I think. A rational comparison of performing styles, and highly informative. I just wish it wasn't affected by unnecessary twoferism.

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                    • Goon525
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                      • Feb 2014
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      A very good start to this BaL, I think. A rational comparison of performing styles, and highly informative. I just wish it wasn't affected by unnecessary twoferism.
                      Agreed on all counts.

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
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                        • Apr 2014
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        A very good start to this BaL, I think. A rational comparison of performing styles, and highly informative. I just wish it wasn't affected by unnecessary twoferism.
                        Good to hear the Bilson and Perahia performances so heavily featured . I suspect the Alicia de La R may carry the palm . That cantabile slow movt...

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                        • Maclintick
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                          • Jan 2012
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                          #72
                          Wot - no Brautigam

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                          • mikealdren
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                            Good to hear the Bilson and Perahia performances so heavily featured . I suspect the Alicia de La R may carry the palm . That cantabile slow movt...
                            Lovely as Alicia de La R's playing was, I found the tempo slow and the orchestral playing very stodgy. Perhaps I'm just hooked on Kempf and Leitner's more flowing tempo.

                            I've just sampled the recordings I have and there seem to be two camps for the Larghetto, the slower Perahia and Fischer and Solomon and the brisker Kempff, Anda, Uchida, PLetnev and Brendel. I prefer the latter although one might argue it is closer to andante.
                            Last edited by mikealdren; 27-03-21, 10:41.

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                            • LMcD
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                              • Sep 2017
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                              #74
                              Overall first choice is Richard Goode, with Malcolm Bilson if you prefer a 'period' instrument.

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                              • Ein Heldenleben
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                                • Apr 2014
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
                                Lovely as Alicia de La R's playing was, I found the tempo slow and the orchestral playing very stodgy. Perhaps I'm just hooked on Kempf and Leitner's more flowing tempo.

                                I've just sampled the recordings I have and there seem to be two camps for the Larghetto, the slower Perahia and Fischer and Solomon and the brisker Kempff, Anda, Uchida, PLetnev and Brendel. I prefer the latter although one might argue it is closer to andante.
                                It struck me that the real challenge would be finding a bad performance. I thought the JEG / Bilson Allegro 1st movt opening a bit too slow. In the end I just think Perahia just has a better touch than Goode but to be honest they are all wonderful performances .

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