BaL 6.03.21 - Debussy: Études pour piano

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  • verismissimo
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    • Nov 2010
    • 2957

    #16
    Actually I enjoy Frankl's Vox/Turnabout set, but I think he just doesn't have the clarity of articulation and prestidigitation necessary for the Etudes.

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    • Serial_Apologist
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      • Dec 2010
      • 37851

      #17
      Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
      Actually I enjoy Frankl's Vox/Turnabout set, but I think he just doesn't have the clarity of articulation and prestidigitation necessary for the Etudes.
      Precisely my feelings too, verismissimo, except that you have articulated them so much more... articulately that I :cool2:

      On balance it loks like the Uchida should be my choice. I am most grateful for the range of suggestions people have taken the trouble to post.



      S-A

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #18
        I have developed something of an allergy to Uchida as a result of my listening experiences with her Schubert and Mozart sonata surveys on disc. Perhaps her Debussy Etudes would restore my previous admiration for her playing, but I'm in no hurry to find out.

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        • amateur51

          #19
          Just to jiggle the applecart of complacency a little , I've just been listening to Pollini's set on Spotify Unlimited and pretty damn' fine they are too.
          Last edited by Guest; 11-05-11, 21:23. Reason: 'of' for 'if'

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          • verismissimo
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            I too was unmoved by Uchida's Schubert, Bryn.

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            • rauschwerk
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              • Nov 2010
              • 1482

              #21
              Uchida's Schubert and Mozart (neither of which I greatly care for myself) have nothing to do with the case. Her playing of the Debussy Etudes is superb and if you doubt me, sample Pour les Accords or Pour les huit doigts. A few bars of either will tell you that this is top notch playing, technically masterful and full of fantasy.

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              • verismissimo
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Uchida's Pour les huit doigts - absolutely stunning.

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                • rubbernecker

                  #23
                  Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                  Uchida's Pour les huit doigts - absolutely stunning.
                  I have had the Uchida recording from the time of its much-lauded Gramophone award, but I now realise why this is the only work Debussy's I have never "got into". As with most other pianists tackling this repertoire, I feel her performance sounds like a mechanical piano roll.

                  Having spent some time sampling various versions on the Amazon MP3 site (although Thibaudet is sadly absent) I have now found one which seems to tick all the boxes, and go some way beyond: Jean-Efflam Bavouzet, as recommended by Highlanddougie above. For the first time in my life I can actually hear the music. Thanks, HD, that is now on order

                  Oh, and if you really want to hear Pour les Huits Doigts go here and scroll down to 196:
                  Last edited by Guest; 12-05-11, 16:26.

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                  • verismissimo
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    #24
                    It's just so personal, the response to music, isn't it. On the CD with Uchida's Etudes there are also Schoenberg's Drei Klavierstucke op 11, which, if anything, I love even more than her Debussy.

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                    • rubbernecker

                      #25
                      Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                      On the CD with Uchida's Etudes there are also Schoenberg's Drei Klavierstucke op 11
                      Not on the original CD release, sadly. Trying to make me spend more money V'mo

                      Oh, and I am a big fan of Uchida's Mozart, btw.

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                      • Barbirollians
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11763

                        #26
                        Uchida's Hammerklavier is in IMO up there with the very greatest performances . I like her Schubert but strangely I was never all that taken with her Mozart with Tate.

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                        • silvestrione
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1725

                          #27
                          [QUOTE=Gradus. Rarely programmed, I don't think I've ever heard the studies performed live.[/QUOTE] They're so difficult, i suppose. Pollini played them live on R3 years ago, together with stunning performances of Chopin Preludes and Stravinsky's Three Pieces from Petrushka. I recorded it on tape, but, alas, at that time I was not keen on the Debussy Etudes and did not keep that part!

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20575

                            #28
                            BaL 6.03.21 - Debussy: Études pour piano

                            9.30am
                            Building a Library
                            Iain Burnside joins Andrew to review recordings of Debussy’s quirky and technically-demanding Etudes for piano, looking to choose the ultimate release to buy, download or stream

                            Available versions:-

                            Pierre-Laurent Aimard
                            Pierre-Laurent Aimard
                            Håkon Austbø
                            Jean-Efflam Bavouzet
                            Philippe Bianconi
                            Idil Biret
                            Luiza Borac
                            HieYon Choi *
                            Aldo Ciccolini
                            Paul Crossley
                            Julia Dahkvist
                            Larissa Dedova
                            Christopher Devine
                            Jacques Février *
                            Peter Frankl *
                            Walter Gieseking
                            Monique Haas
                            Werner Haas
                            Erika Haase
                            Hans Henkemans
                            Roy Howat
                            Paul Jacobs *
                            Martin Jones
                            Michael Korstick
                            Bennett Lerner
                            Jan Michiels
                            Joseph Moog
                            Roger Muraro
                            Noriko Ogawa
                            Garrick Ohlsson
                            Hiromi Okada *
                            Sally Pinkas *
                            Alain Planès
                            Maurizio Pollini *
                            Anne Queffélec
                            Julian Riem
                            Pascal Rogé
                            Charles Rosen *
                            Soulima Stravinsky *
                            Jeffrey Swann *
                            Jean-Yves Thibaudet
                            Francois-Joel Thiollier
                            Martino Tirimo
                            Fou Ts’ong
                            Mitsuko Uchida
                            Mariangela Vacatello
                            Élodie Vignon *
                            Paulina Zamora
                            Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 06-03-21, 13:31.

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                            • mikealdren
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1205

                              #29
                              Interesting to see whether anyone can unseat Uchida after all these years. I also have Livia Rev (nla), I'm still very fond of her Saga Debussy recordings, in many ways I prefer her to Gieseking.

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                              • Serial_Apologist
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37851

                                #30
                                Mine are the Frankel versions on LP, coupled with L'Isle Joyeuse: a little too gentle and muzzy for detail than some - I first heard one or two of the set played by Lamar Crowson in a 1960s broadcast which hit precisely the right tone in every mood - but preferable to the non-mentioned Yvonne Loriod set on Erato, in which she gave every indication of the Messiaen pieces from the 1940s that took and amplified their rhythmic edge.

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