Originally posted by Bryn
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BaL 2.01.21 - Brahms: Horn Trio Op. 40
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Last covered on BaL in June 07, when Ivan Hewett chose Purvis, Phillips, Goode. Prior to that, in March 93 Stephen Johnson chose Brain, Bush & Serkin from 1933 with Tuckwell, Perlman & Ashkenazy as modern sound/cassette choice.
It's not a work I'm fond of & I question whether it deserves to be covered more than eg The Well-Tempered Clavier - surely an essential work for any library - which was last reviewed on Bal in June 91.
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostCurrently streaming from Qobuz, here. It was no easy matter to find it there. The Qobuz search 'facility' leaves much to be desired. I bought the CD 4 years ago but am not sure where I have (mis)filed it. Faust and Melnikov also use appropriate instruments. It's superb, as one might expect for such musicians.
On Qobuz itself, I searched in "downloads" >"classical"..... with this result:
Qobuz is the world leader in 24-bit Hi-Res downloads, offering more than 100 million tracks for streaming in unequalled sound quality 24-Bit Hi-Res
Generally if I need to search the Qobuz website itself for an album, I go to downloads to do it.....
Will listen later, a work I truly adore, especially for its (effectively two) slow movements........but the adagio mesto itself is one of Brahms' greatest tragic inspirations.....Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 22-12-20, 15:01.
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostI just put "Brahms Horn Trio Faust" in the Audirvana+/Qobuz "Discover" search box and...... yes, there it was straight away.
On Qobuz itself, I searched in "downloads" >"classical"..... with this result:
Qobuz is the world leader in 24-bit Hi-Res downloads, offering more than 100 million tracks for streaming in unequalled sound quality 24-Bit Hi-Res
Generally if I need to search the Qobuz website itself for an album, I go to downloads to do it.....
Will listen later, a work I truly adore....
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostI have just tried "Brahms Horn Trio Faust" in the Qobuz app search facility. It totally failed to find the recording. However, "Teunis van der Zwart Brahms" found it straight away. I do not use Audiovana. It's the Qobuz search facility that I find weak.
"Brahms Trio Melnikov" gave me this.....
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostEmploy a valve and it is no longer the Brahms Horn Trio but an arrangement.
The valdhorn was a simpler horn in use at the time - similar to the modern Vienna Philharmonic horns.
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The Ligeti Horn Trio is so often the standard coupling any survey will have to take account of that, surely? Playing here now, the BIS SACD with Neunecker/Weithaas/Avenhaus is simply outstanding in both works, and in the best, perfectly-balanced BIS sound.....
The sound of the horn itself is one of the most distinctive differences between recordings too. Some more rounded, soft or full, others with more rasp and cutting edge. Neunecker is very balanced between these, and very sensitive to nuances in both works and the subtle links between them....this group find the expressive and rhythmical nuances in the scherzo and finale in the Brahms, beautifully .... the latter is more than just rollicking....
Kalevi Aho's Solo X for French Horn plays between the two trios: way more than filler, a marvellous apt and compelling choice. Neunecker is stunningly virtuoso and sensitive here.
Surprised how many I have of this sublime masterpiece, all the way back to Brain/Busch/Serkin.... but choosing just one would be almost impossible....
It could easily come down to couplings....
But, oh that Brahms adagio...from the heart, straight to the heart!Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 23-12-20, 15:39.
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Originally posted by Goon525 View PostBut surely that's like saying that you can't talk about the Schumann Piano Concerto without referring to the Grieg?
The Ligeti is I think one of his most beautiful and approachable works, but it still challenges many an ear... in any case the Schumann/Grieg c/w isn't nearly so prevalent now as it once was...more often the concerto is c/w other Schumann works. The Horn Trio rep seems at first scarcely extensive, hence the predominant (and highly apt) coupling....
There are many others in relative obscurity of course, from Poul Ruders to Robert Simpson...not to mention for solo horn.... maybe Horn Trio colleagues should get out more...Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 23-12-20, 16:55.
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Originally posted by verismissimo View PostIndeed, so Zwart has to be a strong contender. Who's heard it? Reports please.
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Originally posted by CallMePaul View PostI bought this a few years back in Harmonia Mundi's budget Musique d'abord series and have no inclination to buy another recording as I have enjoyed it (and the couplings) very much. Sadly I see that it is download only on the Presto website (but may still be available elsewhere in CD format?). Can H M not keep the Musique d'abord label going?
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Originally posted by CallMePaul View PostI bought this a few years back in Harmonia Mundi's budget Musique d'abord series and have no inclination to buy another recording as I have enjoyed it (and the couplings) very much. Sadly I see that it is download only on the Presto website (but may still be available elsewhere in CD format?). Can H M not keep the Musique d'abord label going?
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Originally posted by MickyD View PostAre you sure that this version was released in the Musique d'abord series? I always thought it had only ever been at full price.
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
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