BaL 19.12.20 - Mahler Symphony no. 1

[Leinster Lass]

Maybe you were thinking of the Kubelik Beethoven set which indeed used different orchestras - probably for contractual reasons No8 was ‘members of the Cleveland Orchestra’

See #28!

[cloughie]

See #28!

OK I wasn’t quick enough!

[Bryn]

Well, he did record the Beethoven symphonies with 9 different orchestras ...

Now available, at a price, on SACD from Japan.

[richardfinegold]

See #28!

Well, that must be it. Actually I think a Mahler cycle with multiple Orchestras would be of more interest than a Beethoven cycle....sorry L.v.B., I know it’s your Birthday Year...

[Alison]

Pleased it’s not Ed Seckerson for a Mahler symphony.

I guess the Jurowski version wouldn’t be the biggest surprise given the South Bank connection.

Jansons also made a Concertgebouw recording.

[visualnickmos]

I didn't even know that there was one!


I now have Mackerras, which I'm pleased to see has an honourable mention from makropulos.

PS: And the BBC MM CD (Volume 8, Number 9): BBCSO/Manfred Honeck (live at the RFH, 11 February 1998).

Apparently, depending on the source, there is a cut of either 24 or 16 bars in the finale! why on earth would any conductor do such a thing?????

[cloughie]

Apparently, depending on the source, there is a cut of either 24 or 16 bars in the finale! why on earth would any conductor do such a thing?????

Are you talking Mackerras or Horneck?
Kletzki did it in both of his recordings!

[Pulcinella]

Are you talking Mackerras or Horneck?
Kletzki did it in both of his recordings!

This was in reply to my mentioning that I hadn't known that there was a cut in the Kletzki recording I used to have on LP.

[visualnickmos]

Are you talking Mackerras or Horneck?
Kletzki did it in both of his recordings!

As Pulcinella mentions, it's in reply to his post re. Kletzki, and according to an article I looked at earlier it states that some critics have identified the cut as being of 24 or 16 bars; just to be clear. Kletzki did, indeed make the cut in both his recordings; Israel Phil and Wiener Phil...

[cloughie]

This was in reply to my mentioning that I hadn't known that there was a cut in the Kletzki recording I used to have on LP.

i didn't track back to this morning so I didn't see it!

[Bryn]

Further on the 1st Symphony and Blumine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150610215000/http://www.mahlerfest.org/mfXIX/blumine_notes.pdf

[makropulos]

Tennstedt also recorded Mahler 1 with the Chicago Symphony, released on CD by EMI in 2010. Could this be the same performance which exists on a DVD coupled with Mahler 8 (LPO at RFH)?

Forgot about that one! Thanks for the reminder. And yes, I think it must be the same one that came out on DVD (though with Tennstedt, I always have to dive into the small print to check).

[makropulos]

I've just done an audit of the Mahler 1 versions on my shelves and, somewhat to my surprise, find that I have no less than 41 plus four more on DVD! I also have several more as off-air recordings.

There are, in fact, four Tennstedt versions: LPO (studio, 1977 EMI), LPO (live, 1990 BBC Legends), LPO (live, 1985 LPO label) and Chicago SO (live, 1990 EMI).

Thanks for clarifying this! Seems I'm missing one of them...

[makropulos]

I now have Mackerras, which I'm pleased to see has an honourable mention from makropulos.

Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Incidentally, I've also got an off-air recording of Mackerras's Prom performance with the Czech Phil in 1998. (Send me a private message if it's of any interest).

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I've just done an audit of the Mahler 1 versions on my shelves and, somewhat to my surprise, find that I have no less than 41 plus four more on DVD! I also have several more as off-air recordings.

41 plus versions of one work. That's amazing!