BaL 10.10.20 - Brahms: Piano Quintet in F minor

[Edgy 2]

It would be interesting to know what the balance is of those on the forum whose preferences are for cd over download and streaming.

Downloads,listening via Naxos Library,charity shop cds and the occasional too good to be true bargain cd box for me nowadays.

[Goon525]

Streaming may have some pretty fundamental problems (which need to be resolved) relating to proper financial compensation to artists, but it’s an absolute boon to the listener. I’m mot interested in streaming below CD quality (except perhaps in the car) but with Qobuz, I’m getting that as a minimum, and high res on most newer stuff. Last year I had my CD collection ‘digitised’ and now, using a very clever service called Roon, can call up Qobuz versions, or those in my own library, can listen to whatever I choose selected from the iPad on my sofa. Roon also provides programme notes on a lot of things, and Qobuz usually (but not always) gives access to booklets. I don’t see much further point in downloading, except for Hyperion and Linn who have been stand-outs against streaming (until recently - Linn stuff is coming on Qobuz soon).

[Bryn]

Streaming may have some pretty fundamental problems (which need to be resolved) relating to proper financial compensation to artists, but it’s an absolute boon to the listener. I’m mot interested in streaming below CD quality (except perhaps in the car) but with Qobuz, I’m getting that as a minimum, and high res on most newer stuff. Last year I had my CD collection ‘digitised’ and now, using a very clever service called Roon, can call up Qobuz versions, or those in my own library, can listen to whatever I choose selected from the iPad on my sofa. Roon also provides programme notes on a lot of things, and Qobuz usually (but not always) gives access to booklets. I don’t see much further point in downloading, except for Hyperion and Linn who have been stand-outs against streaming (until recently - Linn stuff is coming on Qobuz soon).

One situation where downloads are still an attractive option is the surround sound recordings available from, for instance, eClassical. With the right equipment, such as now discontinued Oppo multi-format players, the 5.0 or 5.1 FLACs can be played, say, from an NTFS formatted USB stick, hard disc or SSD. Otherwise, QOBUZ, or like, streaming seem the best current option.

[Barbirollians]

Rather off topic and I see Cloughie has opened another thread .

I have Jando,Rubinstein,Fleisher /Emerson all good.

[richardfinegold]

I’ve got both Fleisher versions—the Juliard version was burned to my NAS before it disappeared—and they are remarkably similar, despite all that happened to the Pianist in the intervening years.

Did Brendel ever record this?

[MickyD]

CDs uniquely for me, basically because even though I am at the relatively tender age of 61, I am completely baffled by all the terms and technology used by all you clever fellow members!

That's not to say I am against new technology, but before launching myself into any of it, I need some sort of idiots' guide to help me begin. Is there such a book or website, a sort of 'Downloading and Streaming for Dummies'?

Were I to master the skills, I still really wonder if I would be as drawn to a list of works on a computer screen...call me old-fashioned, but when I physically see the spines of CDs on shelves in front of me, I am immediately attracted to try them.

[BBMmk2]

I do have a recording. Must play it. Andras Schiff and the Tackacs.

[LMcD]

CDs uniquely for me, basically because even though I am at the relatively tender age of 61, I am completely baffled by all the terms and technology used by all you clever fellow members!

That's not to say I am against new technology, but before launching myself into any of it, I need some sort of idiots' guide to help me begin. Is there such a book or website, a sort of 'Downloading and Streaming for Dummies'?

Were I to master the skills, I still really wonder if I would be as drawn to a list of works on a computer screen...call me old-fashioned, but when I physically see the spines of CDs on shelves in front of me, I am immediately attracted to try them.

When I read this, I thought for a moment that I'd written it, except for the fact that I'm 76!

Perhaps ##20 and 21 could also be included in cloughie's new thread on listening preferences.

[Pulcinella]

When I read this, I thought for a moment that I'd written it, except for the fact that I'm 76!

Perhaps ##20 and 21 could also be included in cloughie's new thread on listening preferences.

I think you might mean #10 (perhaps as the starter for 10, with a new heading?) and #11, but then also #13—#16 and Micky's #19?
And delete this one!

[CallMePaul]

Is it my imagination, or is the proportion of 'download onlys' in your admirable lists steadily increasing? I have the Werner Haas/BPO Octet members as a Philips Duo, and also, on a BBC MM recording, Ralph Kirshbaum and others. recorded in Palo Alto.

This worries me too, although I suspect that in pre-download days these recordings would have been deleted. Can reviewers not be asked to recommend at least one CD version (not in a jumbo box!) even if their top recommendation is a download? My current version is Hough/Takácz but I may also now be interested in a period instrument version (I note Jayne's comments above and will have to investigate availability).

[hmvman]

It would be interesting to know what the balance is of those on the forum whose preferences are for cd over download and streaming.

It's CDs for me still at present. However, I recognise that at some stage I'll have to embrace downloads and streaming. I'm not agin the technology, it's just that I like the collectable, physical product.

[BBMmk2]

I heard my recording of this work, yesterday. I only have one, a Decca twofer, which has also the SQs opp.57 and the op.67. A very fine double Decca. Andrass Schiff and the Tackacs.

[richardfinegold]

I had forgotten that I own the Janos/Kodaly Qt on Naxos. That and the two Fleisher recordings are it for me. I rifled through the big Brendel box because I really thought that there was a version in there, but apparently he never recorded it.

[CallMePaul]

This worries me too, although I suspect that in pre-download days these recordings would have been deleted. Can reviewers not be asked to recommend at least one CD version (not in a jumbo box!) even if their top recommendation is a download? My current version is Hough/Takácz but I may also now be interested in a period instrument version (I note Jayne's comments above and will have to investigate availability).

I'm pleased to see that both these are easily available via Presto. I hope that they will be discussed next weekend but I'm not holding my breath, given that the reviewer is a well-known performer on the modern piano.

[visualnickmos]

I had forgotten that I own the Janos/Kodaly Qt on Naxos. That and the two Fleisher recordings are it for me. I rifled through the big Brendel box because I really thought that there was a version in there, but apparently he never recorded it.

This is a fine recording. I have it, as well as the Takacs on a Decca 'double' with the string quartets. A great set, all round.