BaL 3.10.20 - Schumann: Symphony no. 3 "Rhenish"

[Darloboy]

Sadly this programme seems to have bitten the coronavirus dust & we’re getting a repeat of the Dumky trio episode instead: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h06h

[kernelbogey]

[QUOTE=jayne lee wilson;784721]....I'm in gloomy spirits so much now.... hard to find just what to listen to....hacking away in the garden is better therapy...... Schumann, one of my longest, deepest passions, might help....[/QUOTE]

[jayne lee wilson]

Sadly this programme seems to have bitten the coronavirus dust & we’re getting a repeat of the Dumky trio episode instead: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h06h

That's a great shame.... couldn't they do it remotely/virtually.....?
How about us here..... could we do it independently, listeners offering reviews of their favourites...?
If you have a streaming service, choose a new one against a familiar one....

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

That's a great shame.... couldn't they do it remotely/virtually.....?

As has been suggested earlier, they could simply record the programme without Mr McG. Not such a bitter pill to swallow?

[BBMmk2]

I have ORR/Gardiner, so I hope this will be a contender, which, I think, it will be, somehow?

[jayne lee wilson]

I have ORR/Gardiner, so I hope this will be a contender, which, I think, it will be, somehow?

ORR v LSO could be an interesting comparison....

[Dave2002]

As has been suggested earlier, they could simply record the programme without Mr McG. Not such a bitter pill to swallow?

Some of us are exploring Skype** and Zoom and other online tools. One might imagine that professional broadcasters would know how to do remote audio and video.

**It's not that I don't know how to use Skype, but I didn't know before this emergency that different devices even from the same manufacturer give different GUIs. The Skype I have on the s/h iPhone 5 I bought recently, which ought to be very useful as the gadget is so easy to manoeuvre, is quite different from the Skype on my iPad Pro. Trying hastily to get these tools on Android phones reveals that these also have quirks, and some don't even have all the apps one might hope for.

OTOH one might expect a professional broadcasting organisation to have most of the staff and even "visitors" genned up on the different software tools in order to make things possible. "might" at least.

[cloughie]

Sadly this programme seems to have bitten the coronavirus dust & we’re getting a repeat of the Dumky trio episode instead: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h06h

Seems daft to me - it only needs a link up by someone with a stack of CDs on the sideboard, and maybe a few downloads, a critical ear and a half-decent hi-fi set up and there you are - even maybe a Jayne/Alps twofer!

[Alison]

Disappointing, I was looking forward to reigniting my enthusiasm for this symphony!

On the other hand I didn’t hear the Dumky broadcast so that will come up fresh.

[cloughie]

Disappointing, I was looking forward to reigniting my enthusiasm for this symphony!

On the other hand I didn’t hear the Dumky broadcast so that will come up fresh.

Does that lovely uplifting symphony not continually enthuse you? Reminds me I must have a listen to the Thieleman I bought in a boxed set recently - excellent value too!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

BaL 3.10.20 - Schumann: Symphony no. 3 "Rhenish"

9.30 Building a Library
Marina Frolova-Walker chooses her favourite recording of Schumann's Symphony No 3 in E flat major, Op 97, nicknamed the 'Rhenish'.

In the autumn of 1850, Schumann moved to the Rhineland to take up the position of municipal music director in Düsseldorf. He composed his Third Symphony quickly in the November and filled the score with the impressions of his new home, stating that the symphony “perhaps reflects something of Rhenish life here and there”. The symphony has five movements including a fourth movement, the cathedral movement, that was marked by Schumann 'in the character of the accompaniment to a solemn ceremony', and was inspired by his visit to Cologne Cathedral.

Available versions:-

Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Daniel Barenboim
Robert-Schumann-Philharmonie, Frank Beermann (SACD)
New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Leonard Bernstein
Wiener Philharmoniker, Leonard Bernstein
Wiener Philharmoniker, Leonard Bernstein (DVD)
American Symphony Orchestra, Leon Botstein *
London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult *
London Symphony Orchestra, Yondani Butt
Bergen Philharmonic Orchestra, Aldo Ceccato
Münchner Philharmoniker, Sergiu Celibidache
Gewandhausorchester Leipzig, Riccardo Chailly (orch. Mahler)
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Riccardo Chailly
Berliner Philharmoniker, André Cluytens
Swedish Chamber Orchestra, Thomas Dausgaard (SACD)
Cleveland Orchestra, Christoph von Dohnányi
Berliner Philharmoniker, Gustavo Dudamel (DVD/Blu-ray)
Bamberg Symphony Orchestra, Christoph Eschenbach *
Bamberger Symphoniker, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau *
Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, Lawrence Foster (SACD)
London Symphony Orchestra, Sir John Eliot Gardiner (SACD)
Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique, John Eliot Gardiner
Odense Symfoniorkester, Simon Gaudenz (SACD)
SWR Sinfonieorchester Baden-Baden und Freiburg, Michael Gielen
Los Angeles Philharmonic, Carlo Maria Giulini *
Philharmonia Orchestra, Carlo Maria Giulini
Orchestra Sinfonica di Torino della RAI, Carlo Maria Giulini *
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink
Staatskapelle Dresden, Daniel Harding (DVD/Blu-ray)
Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Nikolaus Harnoncourt
Orchestre des Champs-Élysées, Philippe Herreweghe
WDR Sinfonieorchester Köln, Heinz Holliger
New Philharmonia Orchestra, Eliahu Inbal (SACD)
Radio Sinfonie Orchester Frankfurt, Eliahu Inbal *
Deutsche Kammerphilharmonie Bremen, Paavo Järvi *
Deutsche Kammerphilharmonie Bremen, Paavo Järvi (DVD/Blu-ray)
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Dirk Joeres
Orchestre de la Suisse Romande, Armin Jordan
Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan
New Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer,
Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, Paul Kletzki
Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra, Franz Konwitschny
Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik
Kölner Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester, Rafael Kubelík
Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Rafael Kubelik
Haydn Orchestra of Bolzano and Trento, Gustav Kuhn
Tasmanian Symphony, Sebastian Lang-Lessing *
Berliner Philharmoniker, James Levine
Philadelphia Orchestra, James Levine *
RTV Moscow Symphony Orchestra, Peter Lilye *
Vienna Symphony Orchestra, Fabio Luisi
NHK Symphony Orchestra & Tokyo, Jun Markl (SACD)
Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Sir Neville Marriner
Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Sir Neville Marriner
Wiener Philharmoniker, Zubin Mehta
Boston Symphony Orchestra, Pierre Monteux *
Philharmonia Orchestra, Riccardo Muti
Wiener Philharmoniker, Riccardo Muti
Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Kent Nagano (DVD)
Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Yannick Nézet-Séguin
London Classical Players, Sir Roger Norrington *
Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Sir Roger Norrington
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Grzegorz Nowak
Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Sakari Oramo *
Detroit Symphony Orchestra, Paul Paray
SWF Symphony Orchestra Baden-Baden, Zoltan Pesko *
Sinfonie Orchester des Sudwestfunks Baden-Baden, Christoph Prick *
Belgian Radio and Television Philharmonic Orchestra, Alexander Rahbari
Berliner Philharmoniker, Sir Simon Rattle
Berliner Philharmoniker, Sir Simon Rattle (SACD)
Berliner Philharmoniker, Sir Simon Rattle (DVD/Blu-ray)
Estonian Symphony Orchestra, Gennady Rozhdestvensky
Dresden Staatskapelle, Wolfgang Sawallisch
Netherlands Radio Chamber Philharmonic, Michael Schønwandt (SACD)
Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra, Carl Schuricht *
Paris Conservatoire Orchestra, Carl Schuricht
Seattle Symphony Orchestra, Gerard Schwarz*
St Louis Symphony Orchestra, Jerzy Semkow *
Staatskapelle Dresden, Giuseppe Sinopoli
Deutsche Radio Philharmonie Saarbrücken, Stanislaw Skrowaczewski
Wiener Philharmoniker, Sir Georg Solti *
Deutsche Staatsphilharmonie Rheinland-Pfalz, Karl-Heinz Steffens (SACD)
Silesian Philharmonic Orchestra, Karol Stryja *
Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell *
Berliner Philharmoniker, Klaus Tennstedt
Philharmonia Orchestra, Christian Thielemann
Staatskapelle Dresden, Christian Thielemann
Staatskapelle Dresden, Christian Thielemann (DVD/Blu-ray)
San Francisco Symphony, Michael Tilson Thomas (SACD)
Scottish Chamber Orchestra, Robin Ticciati
NBC Symphony Orchestra, Arturo Toscanini
Dusseldorf Symphony Orchestra, Mario Venzago *
Kölner Rundfunk Sinfonieorchester, Hans Vonk *
New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Bruno Walter
NDR SinfonieOrchester, Günter Wand *
London Philharmonic Orchestra, Franz Welser-Möst *
Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra, Antoni Wit
Orchestra of the Swan, Kenneth Woods
Orchestre de Chambre de Lausanne, Christian Zacharias (SACD)

(* = download only)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Thank you to Bryn for pointing out my error. I confused two different BaLs.

[LMcD]

Thank you to Bryn for pointing out my error. I confused two different BaLs.

Arguably the symphony with the most joyful opening. I have the Cleveland/Dohnanyi.

[jayne lee wilson]

As a Schumann obsessive, Schumann-saturated these last few years through any number of astounding releases.... I tend more toward the Violin Sonatas and Chamber Music now, but with the Rhenish?

If I picked one off the shelf today.....

HIPPs-moderne: COE/Harnoncourt, ScotCO/Ticciati, COE/YNS, SwedCO/Dausgaard....
HIPPs-ancien: ORR/JEG, Hanover Band/Goodman.....

"How happy could I be with either, Were t'other dear charmer away!"
Etc...

Full SO? Hmmm....very hmmm...
Jury still out on: LSO/JEG. (Pins you to the chair....but SACD sound doesn't hurt....)....

Ed. Mahler: LGO/Chailly. Bergen SO/Ceccato..

....when dinosaurs ruled the Earth: BRSO/Kubelik.

[Nick Armstrong]

Thank you to Bryn for pointing out my error. I confused two different BaLs.

I’m still confused. There seem to be two threads for “BAL 26.09.20” - one for the Mozart Mass, and another for the Schumann Rhenish...