BaL 4.01.20 - Elgar: Enigma Variations

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Stanfordian
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 9329

    #31
    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    That cathedral acoustic for the Del Mar adds to the atmosphere and the organ at the end goes on forever!

    I admire the Del Mar recording too!

    I wonder if it gets a mention.

    Comment

    • Lordgeous
      Full Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 837

      #32
      Delighted to see so many share my admiration for the Del Mar. The BAL will be interesting but I suspect, as so often, a little frustrating!

      Comment

      • Oakapple

        #33
        That Del Mar recording was also part of The Great Composers series (number 45) which appeared in the 1980s. Every fortnight there was an LP or cassette with a magazine for £2.75, available from newsagents.

        Comment

        • Petrushka
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12334

          #34
          No-one has so far mentioned the original ending. It's included on the Halle/Elder disc and you can programme it in if you want, though it does show that Elgar's revision (prompted by Jaeger) was a move very much for the better. I like Elder's performance and think it merits strong consideration for being the library choice.
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

          Comment

          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 11125

            #35
            Away from my collection here, but certainly RPO/Del Mar (yes, that organ) and LSO/Monteux are on the shelves, as are BBCSO/Bernstein (which in a curious way I admire) and RLPO/Handley.

            Comment

            • LeMartinPecheur
              Full Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 4717

              #36
              LSO/ Monteux (Decca World of...) was my first as a student, because cheap as well as good. Later supplemented by PO/ Barbirolli and LPO/ Mackerras, and Elgar's own via World Record Club, all on LP. Not very much on CD except the big EMI box of all Elgar's electrical recordings and a Naxos Bournemouth SO/ Hurst. Oh, and a BBC MM. So not very many really, but I daresay quite enough.
              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

              Comment

              • makropulos
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1677

                #37
                Mackerras/LPO (originally EMI) doesn't seem to be on the original list (his other two recordings are) –but it is available as part of the ICON box of Mackerras recordings. It's been my favourite Enigma for many years, alongside Eugen Jochum's DG recording with the LSO. Both are affectionate and sensitive, but never fussy, and both are brisk and exciting where they need to be. As well as many others (Boult several times, Barbirolli, Monteux) I'm pretty happy with my stash of Enigmas. It'll be interesting to see where the discussion leads.

                Comment

                • seabright
                  Full Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 630

                  #38
                  I was surprised to see so many entries in #1 as being "download only." The Stokowski / Czech Philharmonic, for example, is readily available as a CD from Cala, where it is coupled with an LSO Brahms 1 and, as can be seen in the review quotes on the Cala page, it received quite a few "raves" ...



                  Both performances are also available in a massive 23-CDs Decca Boxed Set of all Stokowski's "Phase-4" recordings, ranging from Bach, Vivaldi and Handel up to Stravinsky, Messiaen and Ives ...



                  Here is a sample of the Czech PO Elgar, including "Nimrod" where Stokowski's "free-bowing" in the strings contributed to a superbly refulgent sound ...

                  In 1972, at the age of 90, Stokowski made his only recording of any of Elgar's music in Prague. The three 'friends pictured within' presented here give an ex...

                  Comment

                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20576

                    #39
                    Thanks Seabright.
                    Duly amended.

                    Comment

                    • seabright
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 630

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Thanks Seabright.
                      Duly amended.
                      Thanks to you for your wonderful listings. I certainly couldn't compile such a list, so I hope you'll forgive me if I point out a couple more CDs which are listed as downloads only, simply because I have both of them in my collection! ...

                      Rolf Kleinert / Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra ...



                      Stanislaw Skrowaczewski / Saarbrucken Radio Symphony Orchestra ...



                      I doubt if either of these will get a mention but we shall see!

                      Comment

                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20576

                        #41
                        Originally posted by seabright View Post
                        Thanks to you for your wonderful listings. I certainly couldn't compile such a list, so I hope you'll forgive me if I point out a couple more CDs which are listed as downloads only, simply because I have both of them in my collection! ...

                        Rolf Kleinert / Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra ...



                        Stanislaw Skrowaczewski / Saarbrucken Radio Symphony Orchestra ...



                        I doubt if either of these will get a mention but we shall see!
                        Sorted. Thank you again.

                        Comment

                        • pastoralguy
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7816

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                          BBCSO/Bernstein (which in a curious way I admire) .
                          It certainly has conviction even if it's not idiomatic.

                          Comment

                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20576

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            ... as are BBCSO/Bernstein (which in a curious way I admire)
                            Perhaps this was the performance that inspired the extreme stretching of Nimrod in "Dunkirk"?

                            Comment

                            • makropulos
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1677

                              #44
                              The Ormandy/Philadelphia version (Sony) is still available from Amazon in at least three different CD incarnations. It's always interesting to hear a great American orchestra in this repertoire.

                              The first of Mackerras's recordings (LPO/EMI) is still missing from the original list of recordings, though it is readily available in the ICON box.

                              Comment

                              • seabright
                                Full Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 630

                                #45
                                I hesitate to add another Barbirolli CD to the list, as this one is definitely "not available," unless you can fork out $150.99 for a copy! ... It's on a 2-CD 'Arkadia' set where he conducted "Gerontius" in Rome in 1957, with the Orchestra Sinfonica di Roma della Rai and soloists Jon Vickers, Constance Shacklock and Marian Nowakowski. The "Enigma Variations" in the same set comes from another 1957 broadcast, this time with the Orchestra Sinfonica di Torino della Rai. As these broadcasts are well out-of-copyright under the EU's Directive on Sound Recordings, dated 1 November 2013, I'm surprised these performances haven't been reissued. If the current asking price for the old 'Arkadia' Set is $150.99, it's about time someone brought out a newly-remastered edition! ...



                                If you've not heard Jon Vickers as Gerontius in this Italian performance, click the link below. Incidentally, the RAI Chorus sings the work as if it were Verdi and they sound just great, as indeed does Vickers ...

                                Elgar's "The Dream of Gerontius," a setting of Cardinal Newman's poem relating the journey of a dying man's soul from his deathbed to his judgement, was give...

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X