BaL 18.02.12 - Bach Goldberg Variations

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  • Tony Halstead
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1717

    Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
    I too knew George, and like NK. used to turn pages for him at concerts and recordings. I dont believe he was that happy with his Goldbergs and always wished he could have another crack at it. He wasn't comfortable in the studio and much preferred performing live. I haven't listened to his version for years but will certainly dig it out again now. Its the centenary of his birth next year and i do hope the BBC will do some sort of tribute - NK would be the ideal presenter. A number of events are currently being planned.
    He once related to me a story of a disastrous 'live broadcast' that he did in France, when he was obliged to use a Landowska-style PLEYEL harpsichord, whose pedals were 'negative' ones, i.e. in their 'default ' positions ( up / at rest) they operated all the registers, i.e. 8', 4', 16' . He said that, unfortunately in his 'boozing days', in that particular concert, at a climactic moment he depressed all the pedals and was left with a totally silent keyboard 'a la Joseph Cooper'... !

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    • Lordgeous
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      • Dec 2012
      • 831

      Great story! George's interesting sleeve notes for Schiff's first Goldbergs here: http://www.georgemalcolm.co.uk/goldbergs.html

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      • Lordgeous
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        • Dec 2012
        • 831

        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Get your George Malcolm Goldbergs here.
        Is this a reissue of George's Decca recording or a fresh version, does anyone know?

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        • Bryn
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          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
          Is this a reissue of George's Decca recording or a fresh version, does anyone know?

          The final paragraph of the notes on the page linked to make it clear that whatever the precise provenance of this recording, it was reviewed by ORYX in 1964.

          Further evidence here.

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          • Lordgeous
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            • Dec 2012
            • 831

            Many thanks.

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              Funny enough, I struggle with Esfahani's Goldberg, too. Maybe because it’s the Glenn Gould recordings that I have listened to with most familiarity.
              Last edited by Beef Oven!; 03-02-17, 23:16. Reason: n

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              • BBMmk2
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                Funny enough, I struggle with Esfahani's Goldberg, too. Maybe because it’s the Glen Gould recordings that I have listened to with most familiarity.
                Perish the thought Glenn Gould?!?!? My goodness! no thank you either!
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
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                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  Perish the thought Glenn Gould?!?!? My goodness! no thank you either!

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                  • BBMmk2
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Afraid so Beefy, I just could bare the way his interpretation or playing was going though. I heard both versions(two in the 1950s wasn't it?
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • Beef Oven!
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                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      1955 & 1981, I think. Piano.

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                      • BBMmk2
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        1955 & 1981, I think. Piano.
                        You could be right. I heard both and didn't like his interpretations.
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • Richard Barrett
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                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6259

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          1955 & 1981, I think.
                          Indeed. Well, I find Gould fascinating in many ways but I don't much like listening to his playing. I prefer Bach's music to be allowed to "speak" for itself, whatever instrument it's played on.

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                          • Bryn
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                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            1955 & 1981, I think. Piano.
                            Well, if you are only considering his studio recordings, yes, but are there not at least a couple of live recordings too?

                            e,g,



                            I seem to recall another on the CBC label, dating from a 1954 performance.
                            Last edited by Bryn; 04-02-17, 11:35. Reason: Dodgy space bar.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                              I prefer Bach's music to be allowed to "speak" for itself, whatever instrument it's played on.
                              The only way to do that is to leave it on the printed page.

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                              • BBMmk2
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                The only way to do that is to leave it on the printed page.
                                It's always down to the artists' interpretation, unfortunately!
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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