BaL 29.06.19 - Mozart: Piano Quartets 1 & 2

[Mal]

I have a couple of those listed plus Ingrid Haebler and members of the Berlin Phil,presumably nla,but it’s very good.

Still available new, at £25! Wait for the box set:

http://www.goodwinshighend.com/music/classical/Haebler/Ingrid%20Haebler_34CD_boxset.htm

[Mal]

... the Beaux Arts are much closer to the main 20th Century performing tradition.

Third Ear recommends Schnabel and Pro Arte, Curzon and Amadeus, Szell (yes that Szell!) and Budapest quartet. These are all historical, so I'd be wondering about the sound quality! Contemporary versions with equal recommendations are Brendel & ad.hoc., Alban Berg, Beaux Arts.

[Mal]

What about the Menuhin Festival Piano Quartet (Friedemann Rieger, Nora Chastain, Paul Coletti and Francis Gouton) on Naxos?
I know it's available, because I've just bought it!

It doesn't quite get a top recommendation from Third Ear, the comment being "collectors on a budget should be quite satisfied with...") Note the Penguin 2010 top recommendation (Nash Ensemble) is available new at about the same bargain price, and the joint top recommendation (Lewis & Leopold Trio, Hyperion) isn't much more. Go back to Penguin 1999, though, and there is different set of recommendations! Wth the superstar quartet of Ax, Stern, Laredo & Ma topping the list, alongside Beaux Arts, & Schiff et.al.

Schiff et.al. are very HIPP, with Schiff playing Mozart's fortepiano (Anton Walte, 1780) Yuuko Shiokawa plays his violin - mid 18th century, Mittenwald Bavaria ( as is Miklos Perenyis 1770 cello.), while Erich Hogarth plays a viola made by Carlo Antonio Testore of Milan, also believed to have belonged to Mozart. The Penguins feelings are mixed, though, "The stringed instruments produce real warmth in the acoustic of the Wienersaal of the Salzburg Mozarteum, though the fortepiano sounds somewhat papery and wanting in timbre,... this should not be an only recommendation in this repertoire. The Beaux Arts, using modern instruments, are rather special."

Gramophone 2010 go for Paul Lewis and the Leopold String Trio as overall top choice, with Sonnerie getting a recommendation for HIPP.

Is the Beaux Arts available on CD at the moment?

Any thoughts on the best HIPP? Sonnerie, Schiff, or the Brilliant Classics "wandering engineer" account?

[Mal]

I have heard this CD [Menuhin Festival Piano Quartet on Naxos]. A very refreshing and sunny quality that I find very attractive.

How does it compare to others you have heard?

[MickyD]

Any thoughts on the best HIPP? Sonnerie, Schiff, or the Brilliant Classics "wandering engineer" account?

I'm still waiting to hear if anyone is familiar with the Andreas Staier version.

[BBMmk2]

I actually have a recording of this! Paul Lewis and The Leopold Trio!

[Pulcinella]

I actually have a recording of this! Paul Lewis and The Leopold Trio!

Are you sure you're feeling alright, Bbm?
Maybe you need a little lie down.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I'm hoping someone will discover Mozart's 3rd Piano Quartet, but that's rather like Beethoven's 10th and Sibelius's 8th.

[Bryn]

. . . Is the Beaux Arts available on CD at the moment?

Indeed it is, and only around £1.50 (pro rata ):

[Mal]

I actually have a recording of this! Paul Lewis and The Leopold Trio!

Do you like it :)?

[Mal]

[Beaux arts is available on CD], and only around £1.50 (pro rata ):

Who's the violinist? I have the piano trios with Guillet, and I wish I had Cohen! (Is Cohen in that big box?) Third Ear and Penguin 99 both recommend Philips 410391, also in the "Compete Mozart Edtion" Vol. 14, which has Cohen:

https://www.discogs.com/Mozart-Beaux-Arts-Trio-With-Bruno-Giuranna-The-Piano-Quartets-Die-Klavierquartette/release/7111987

[Mal]

The Beaux arts piano quartets (& trios) are also in this box:

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8261060--mozart-complete-piano-trios

It actually has both the Guillet and Cohen performances of the trios!

[jayne lee wilson]

It doesn't quite get a top recommendation from Third Ear, the comment being "collectors on a budget should be quite satisfied with...") Note the Penguin 2010 top recommendation (Nash Ensemble) is available new at about the same bargain price, and the joint top recommendation (Lewis & Leopold Trio, Hyperion) isn't much more. Go back to Penguin 1999, though, and there is different set of recommendations! Wth the superstar quartet of Ax, Stern, Laredo & Ma topping the list, alongside Beaux Arts, & Schiff et.al.

Schiff et.al. are very HIPP, with Schiff playing Mozart's fortepiano (Anton Walte, 1780) Yuuko Shiokawa plays his violin - mid 18th century, Mittenwald Bavaria ( as is Miklos Perenyis 1770 cello.), while Erich Hogarth plays a viola made by Carlo Antonio Testore of Milan, also believed to have belonged to Mozart. The Penguins feelings are mixed, though, "The stringed instruments produce real warmth in the acoustic of the Wienersaal of the Salzburg Mozarteum, though the fortepiano sounds somewhat papery and wanting in timbre,... this should not be an only recommendation in this repertoire. The Beaux Arts, using modern instruments, are rather special."

Gramophone 2010 go for Paul Lewis and the Leopold String Trio as overall top choice, with Sonnerie getting a recommendation for HIPP.

Is the Beaux Arts available on CD at the moment?

Any thoughts on the best HIPP? Sonnerie, Schiff, or the Brilliant Classics "wandering engineer" account?

See #12 (6 posts up from yours )....

I haven't heard any others recently, but when you hear it, you just know....
Outstanding in every way, potential winner etc....

Readily found on Qobuz, Presto, Amazon etc.

https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/mozart-3-piano-quartets-k478-k493-k452-sonnerie/0074362502122

Was that a Collection piece in G-2010? What month s'il vous plaît?

[Mal]

Was that [Sonnerie review] a Collection piece in G-2010? What month s'il vous plaît?

It was from the Gramophone Classical Music Guide 2010. Sonnerie was not given any stars, which isn't as bad as it sounds as just getting into Gramo Guide is as good as three stars in Penguin! It means "good performance with the odd reservation"; Lewis & Leopold were given two stars, meaning "outstanding", to get three you need to be a Gramophone winner. As it's on Hyperion you'll need to buy a (budget) CD if you fancy doing a comparison! The Sonnerie review from the guide is online, it's really quite glowing, so one wonders at the lack of stars (!):

https://www.gramophone.co.uk/review/mozart-piano-quartets

[jayne lee wilson]

It was from the Gramophone Classical Music Guide 2010. Sonnerie was not given any stars, which isn't as bad as it sounds as just getting into Gramo Guide is as good as three stars in Penguin! It means "good performance with the odd reservation"; Lewis & Leopold were given two stars, meaning "outstanding", to get three you need to be a Gramophone winner. As it's on Hyperion you'll need to buy a (budget) CD if you fancy doing a comparison! The Sonnerie review from the guide is online, it's really quite glowing, so one wonders at the lack of stars (!):

https://www.gramophone.co.uk/review/...piano-quartets

Yes....that is a straight transcription of the G-5/2001 Stanley Sadie review I referenced in #12...
I bought it on its release.
It's so good, "stars" would be an insult...... Hope to hear from others about it soon...