BaL 18.05.19 - Sibelius: Lemminkäinen Suite, Op.22

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    Ferney, Beecham storms it - listen!!!!!
    I know - that's what I (meant to have) said: Jensen does as good a job with the piece as the finale to the whole Suite as Beecham does treating the Return as an individual concert work.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
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      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      I know - that's what I (meant to have) said: Jensen does as good a job with the piece as the finale to the whole Suite as Beecham does treating the Return as an individual concert work.
      You did and I edited my reply after a second reading!

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        I’m always rather weary about mono recordings.
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
          • 22182

          Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
          I’m always rather weary about mono recordings.
          Don’t be, there are many good ones around, and I wouldn’t want you missing out!

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 11062

            Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
            I’m always rather weary about mono recordings.
            They needn't all send you to sleep, as cloughie points out!
            (I think you meant wary, )

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              They needn't all send you to sleep, as cloughie points out!
              (I think you meant wary, )
              Indeed. If weary, one can have a lie down with one ear against the pillow, in which case stereo would also come across as mono.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
                I’m always rather weary about mono recordings.
                But you have this one, Bbm - it's in the big DECCA box (the one with the blue cover and the Anthony Collins cycle of the Symphonies).
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 11062

                  Looks like the new BBCSO/Oramo recording was included in yesterday's Afternoon on 3, so it should be around for a while for anyone who wants to listen to it.
                  Choral music by Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky. Plus, Sibelius’s thrilling Lemminkainen Suite.

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                  • Alain Maréchal
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1287

                    Prompted by discussion here I listened to Jochum's Sibelius recordings. I noticed a facsimile of the recording data. It mentions, tantalisingly, "Sibelius Op 51 Belshazzar's Feast". Has anybody ever come across this recording in any format?

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                    • HighlandDougie
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3106

                      Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                      Prompted by discussion here I listened to Jochum's Sibelius recordings. I noticed a facsimile of the recording data. It mentions, tantalisingly, "Sibelius Op 51 Belshazzar's Feast". Has anybody ever come across this recording in any format?
                      An agreeable diversion while trying to get through on the 'phone to the Préfecture - here is, I think, your answer:

                      "La deuxième a été réalisée par René Trémine et figure dans le volume 2 de l'édtion Tahra "Centenaire Eugen Jochum"(2002) :
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                      Cette discographie est à la fois beaucoup plus large et précise que celle de John Hunt. Elle discute, par exemple, de la véracité des enregistrements parus en Grande-Bretagne en 1994/95 dans la série Orchid.

                      La discographie de Rob Kruijt fait état d'un enregistrement DGG de la suite "Le festin de Balthazar" de Sibelius. Je n'ai, personnellement, jamais vu un disque DGG proposant cet enregistrement. John Hunt ignore cet enregistrement. René Trémine précise que cette page devait être enregistrée conjointement aux "Océanides", durant la session du 27 novembre 1955. Cet enregistrement eut-il lieu ? En tous cas, il n'a pas été publié, à ma connaissance.


                      fomalhaut

                      La discographie de Jochum figurant dans le volume 2 de l'anthologie Tahra indique que la suite du Festin de Balthazar devait être enregistrée au cours de ces sessions, mais que ça ne s'est finalement pas fait.

                      Seuls Les Océanides, Chevauchée nocturne et les suites de La Tempête ont donc été enregistrées. A noter que le « cahier des charges » des sessions reproduit sous le plastique du CD digipack « Musik Sprache der Welt » (couplage avec du Wagner) mentionne lui aussi que la suite du Festin était prévue.

                      D’ailleurs, le son de l’enregistrement Jochum de la Chevauchée nocturne est meilleur (moins sec) dans la réédition The Originals (en complément de la 4e de Bruckner) que dans l’album « Musik Sprache der Welt » !!"

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        Looks like the new BBCSO/Oramo recording was included in yesterday's Afternoon on 3, so it should be around for a while for anyone who wants to listen to it.
                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00066q2
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Alain Maréchal
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1287

                          Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                          An agreeable diversion while trying to get through on the 'phone to the Préfecture - here is, I think, your answer:
                          Merci M. des Hauts. "Festin" is rendered as "Gastmahl" on the recording notes, which sounds like a much more formal and dull affair. I remain tantalised, but resigned. It is a lovely suite. Jochum's Night Ride and Sunrise suggests it was a pity he did not record the subject of this entire thread, it would have been passionate.

                          I suspect the Préfecture is suffering from the heat.

                          I appear to have the inferior remastering (« Musik Sprache der Welt » ) but I hope the Eloquence version, which have ordered, will be superior. From the inlay I think that in the event only the overture to <<Der Sturm>> was recorded.

                          Still 30 degrees at 2240, and humid. Another sleepless night ahead.
                          Last edited by Alain Maréchal; 27-06-19, 20:45. Reason: closer reading of given text

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                          • Pulcinella
                            Host
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 11062

                            Five stars for both performance and recording from Stephen Johnson for the new BBCSO/Oramo recording in the August 2019 issue of BBC MM.

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                            • richardfinegold
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 7737

                              I heard Salomon Conductor “Ls Return “ on the radio yesterday on my drive in to work. Exciting stuff and I think that I will seek out his recording.

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                              • Barbirollians
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11751

                                I seem to have missed most of this but a recently acquired secondhand copy of the 1970s Ormandy on EMI strikes me as much the best I have heard - leaving even Gibson well behind .

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