BaL 20.04.19/11.01.20 - Schumann: Piano Concerto in A minor

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  • Mal
    Full Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 892

    I had to Google "Eusebius Schumann". This produced some very difficult reading. Thank goodness for Stephen Isserlis and the Grauniad:

    "Schumann's writing, like his music, reflects his deeply romantic nature; many of his articles describe the reactions of two imaginary characters of his own invention, representing different aspects of his character, whom he dubbed Florestan (impulsive and spontaneous) and Eusebius (inward and thoughtful)."

    Robert Schumann wrote music of extraordinary, visionary beauty. But why is so much of it so little known? It's time to re-evaluate a musical genius, writes Steven Isserlis


    I thought this was a good BAL, it generated a library building impulse in me due to a spontaneous reaction to Perahia's pianism, although I had already put deep thought and inward contemplation into associated items. "Murray Perahia plays Schumann", 6CD sony box, £15 from various outlets (I avoided the Swiss air mail/tax dodging and Amazon's £20 lower limit by plumping for Music Magpie).

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    • Dave2002
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      • Dec 2010
      • 18049

      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
      I recently ordered a cd of the Brahms violin sonatas that was on RCA by a violinist I'd never heard of. It was very cheap and my curiosity was pricked. It was TERRIBLE! Lethargic tempi, an uninteresting sound and just not very good. (I've always loved Isaac Stern's assertion that a great violinist should DEMAND your ears! Well, this player certainly didn't.)

      So I do wonder if, like those articles in Gramophone, there should be a 'one to avoid' anti-recommendation. For how can one truly choose a single example of such masterpieces? In the case of the Brahms, how can one choose between Oistrakh, Grumiaux, Kovackos, etc, etc?
      Fairly recently my car radio was “detuned” to another station - CFM I think. There was a programme with Alexander Armstrong which played a version of Tchaikovsky’s violin concerto. It attracted my attention because of the question and answer which followed, about a piece where the orchestra at the first performance were allegedly told to play so quietly that the audience wouldn’t hear it, and then it would never be heard again. Then there was a lot of puff and bluster (and afterwards) about the great performance by some obscure artist and orchestra to be heard. I don’t like being too critical, but it was truly dreadful. If that soloist had played at the first performance with that orchestra it would have justified the piece being excluded from the repertoire permanently.

      Sometimes there really are excruciating performances. The winner of this weekend’s BAL was not in the same league.

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11774

        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        Fairly recently my car radio was “detuned” to another station - CFM I think. There was a programme with Alexander Armstrong which played a version of Tchaikovsky’s violin concerto. It attracted my attention because of the question and answer which followed, about a piece where the orchestra at the first performance were allegedly told to play so quietly that the audience wouldn’t hear it, and then it would never be heard again. Then there was a lot of puff and bluster (and afterwards) about the great performance by some obscure artist and orchestra to be heard. I don’t like being too critical, but it was truly dreadful. If that soloist had played at the first performance with that orchestra it would have justified the piece being excluded from the repertoire permanently.

        Sometimes there really are excruciating performances. The winner of this weekend’s BAL was not in the same league.
        With Andrew Schiff at the piano it could not be - but to my taste it was very short on Florestan. Bought the Fischer/Giulini she praised and it arrived this afternoon on Amazon Prime - I wonder why she did not play more of it - a terrific account - much more vim than the winner.

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 11129

          I missed the BaL but listened to the BBCMM CD issue last night (Lars Vogt, BBCSSO, Martyn Brabbins, from the 1996 Proms) and was somewhat underwhelmed.
          I'm pretty sure that I used to have a Stephen Bishop coupling with the Greig, but I mustn't have upgraded it to a CD release; the version I have in my non-BBC CD collection is Pascal Devoyon, London Philharmonic, Jerzy Maksymiuk, on Classics for Pleasure, which is not in Alpie's list, so presumably nla. I must listen to it again soon.

          PS: It does seem still to be available:

          though the version I have looks like this:

          (and it appears to have had other incarnations too!).
          Last edited by Pulcinella; 22-04-19, 16:11. Reason: PS added. Sorry Alpie!

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20576

            Bumping this one as it was repeated today, replacing the advertised BaL.

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            • ardcarp
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11102

              Oh dear, listening to all that twice is more than body and soul can bear......

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11774

                Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                Oh dear, listening to all that twice is more than body and soul can bear......
                Has the Brahms Quintet thread been deleted ?

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                • jayne lee wilson
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 10711

                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  Bumping this one as it was repeated today, replacing the advertised BaL.
                  Lucy Parham was due to cover the Op.34... she did the Op.54 as well, hence....
                  Maybe she's ill or something.... shame though, looking forward to the Op.34 one....

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                  • pastoralguy
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7818

                    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                    Has the Brahms Quintet thread been deleted ?
                    Looks like it!

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20576

                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      Has the Brahms Quintet thread been deleted ?
                      It’s been hidden until we know if/when the BaL will be broadcast.

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                      • vinteuil
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12964

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        It’s been hidden until we know if/when the BaL will be broadcast.
                        ... can it be brought out of hiding? I want to re-read some of the thoughts of contributors.

                        I can't see what is gained by keeping it hidden!

                        Just because Radio 3 can't get its act together, it doesn't mean we shd be deprived of the chance of sharing our thoughts, surely??

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11774

                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ... can it be brought out of hiding? I want to re-read some of the thoughts of contributors.

                          I can't see what is gained by keeping it hidden!

                          Just because Radio 3 can't get its act together, it doesn't mean we shd be deprived of the chance of sharing our thoughts, surely??

                          .
                          Can we not put it into recordings in discussion and then merge it into any new BAL thread ?

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                          • LMcD
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                            • Sep 2017
                            • 8704

                            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                            Lucy Parham was due to cover the Op.34... she did the Op.54 as well, hence....
                            Maybe she's ill or something.... shame though, looking forward to the Op.34 one....
                            Struck down with laryngitis.

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              I have Martha Argerich in the Lugano box. I’m quite happy with that but those others who were in the prizes, look intriguing too.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • cloughie
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                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22215

                                Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                                Struck down with laryngitis.
                                Good that she postponed rather than try to struggle on meaning that Andrew took even greater proportion of the twofer vocals!

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