Originally posted by Goon525
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BaL 6.04.19 - Mahler: Symphony no. 4 in G
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Originally posted by Goon525 View PostI could listen to this, having a Qobuz subscription. But what earthly point is there in a chamber orchestra version of Mahler 10 when there are several different completions available on the full orchestras for which he wrote?
Can't say why Robert von Bahr went to Rovaniemi to record it but it may have something to do with it having been performed in concert - not a live recording, as far as I can hear.
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I thought I had posted this last night but it appears not over the 3G ether.
It is a shame that Walter’s live 1955 VPO version with Hilde Gueden seems no longer to be readily available on DG. It is a masterly performance and Gueden appears to be ideal for the finale.It has the most moving Ruhevoll movement for me.
I must admit to struggling with Wittek on the Bernstein version though I see RO raved about it in Gramophone at the time. I love the Battle/Maazel and won’t here a word against it !
Mr Barsgwanath repeated himself to such an extent I suspected an editing error at first.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostI thought I had posted this last night but it appears not over the 3G ether.
It is a shame that Walter’s live 1955 VPO version with Hilde Gueden seems no longer to be readily available on DG. It is a masterly performance and Gueden appears to be ideal for the finale.It has the most moving Ruhevoll movement for me.
I must admit to struggling with Wittek on the Bernstein version though I see RO raved about it in Gramophone at the time. I love the Battle/Maazel and won’t here a word against it !
Mr Barsgwanath repeated himself to such an extent I suspected an editing error at first.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
It is a shame that Walter’s live 1955 VPO version with Hilde Gueden seems no longer to be readily available on DG. It is a masterly performance and Gueden appears to be ideal for the finale.It has the most moving Ruhevoll movement for me.
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https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7949266--bruno-walter-in-vienna-the-mahler-recordingsBruno Walter in Vienna - The Mahler Recordings. Andromeda: ANDRCD5041. Buy 2 CDs or download online. Kathleen Ferrier & Julius Patzak, with Hilde Guden Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
( ... and on special offer for the next week! )
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... available on the andromeda label from presto :
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7949266--bruno-walter-in-vienna-the-mahler-recordingsBruno Walter in Vienna - The Mahler Recordings. Andromeda: ANDRCD5041. Buy 2 CDs or download online. Kathleen Ferrier & Julius Patzak, with Hilde Guden Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
( ... and on special offer for the next week! )
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Returning to this thread I found a Philips secondhand copy of the Mengelberg Mahler 4 in a charity shop recently someone seemed to have realised that it was a cut above the usual Stock as it was £4 rather than the £1 label onPiano Classics and the like.
A bit scuffed and someone oddly had underlined some comments in the booklet. Listening to it over the last few days a few times I have come to get used to some of the extreme rubato employed and enjoyed more its immense character and echt Mahlerian style. A classic undoubtedly .
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostReturning to this thread I found a Philips secondhand copy of the Mengelberg Mahler 4 in a charity shop recently someone seemed to have realised that it was a cut above the usual Stock as it was £4 rather than the £1 label onPiano Classics and the like.
A bit scuffed and someone oddly had underlined some comments in the booklet. Listening to it over the last few days a few times I have come to get used to some of the extreme rubato employed and enjoyed more its immense character and echt Mahlerian style. A classic undoubtedly .
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostI reacted similiarly to Persson, especially when I went back to Irmgard Seefried for Walter (1950 live).
I am not surprised. The 1950 mono sound is acceptable and one can immediately tell this is the VPO of Walter’s 1952 Das Lied. It is a wonderful performance and Seefried is outstanding.
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostWhat a shame we don't have other 4ths from Mengelberg.....
So far I haven't tracked down any Gramophone Collection articles on the Mahler 4 in the archive; if anyone finds one do let us all know...
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostIn Gramophone this month from David Gutman.
Among many verbal felicities, I liked Gutman's final comment about the BFO/I-Fischer....
"recalibrating Mengelberg's interventionism for our own time."
By Polonius, that's good, that's very good......
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostAgree very much about Lucy Crowe being ideal as the solo soprano in the finale
Have I missed mentions of Tennstedt and Pops in Mahler 4 - RO was very complimentary about it in the mid 1980s .
Ending up just listening to the Fourth - Popp was outstanding . Surely, one of Tennstedt’s very best records.
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