BaL 16.03.19 - Brahms: Piano Concerto no. 2 in B flat

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  • Lordgeous
    Full Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 830

    #16
    Not strictly relevant but a rare film here of Curzon live perfirmance:

    Brahms Concerto no.2 B flat major op.83Clifford CurzonRAI TorinoEttore GracisNovember 11th, 1966Torino

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11676

      #17
      Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
      Not strictly relevant but a rare film here of Curzon live perfirmance:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxcOCDHzkN0
      A shame he did not record it for Decca with Szell -Kna's accompaniment sounds a bit soggy in comparison and in never quite comes off.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #18
        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
        Fabulous work in compiling the list, Alpie!
        Absolutely - and especially given the key of this piece ... !
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • gurnemanz
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          • Nov 2010
          • 7383

          #19
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          Oops. Let down by Google. Not on QOBUZ currently. That Amazon price is horribly inflated.
          Presto have it at a more normal price.

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #20
            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
            Presto have it at a more normal price.
            Thanks. The FLACs with booklet pdf looks even more wallet-friendly and saves having to rip.

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            • gurnemanz
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7383

              #21
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              Didn't the Solomon recording win last time despite its age . Can't argue with it - it is marvellous .
              Correct.
              Stephen Johnson 2001
              First Choice:
              Solomon (piano), Philharmonia Orchestra, Issay Dobrowen (conductor)
              (1947, mono)
              Stereo Choice:
              Stephen Kovacevich (piano), London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis (conductor)
              (1979)

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              • gurnemanz
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7383

                #22
                I have the Solomon but Kovacevich with Sawallisch, interestingly coupled with Ann Murray singing five songs, including "Immer leiser" which uses the lovely cello tune from the Andante).

                Since that last BaL there have been plenty of good new recordings to choose from. My CD versions are all older:

                Rubinstein/Munch
                Rubinstein/Krips
                Anda/Klemperer - Cologne, live
                Gilels/Jochum
                Backhaus (aged 83)/Böhm - VPO

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22118

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  Oops. Let down by Google. Not on QOBUZ currently. That Amazon price is horribly inflated.
                  Bryn, try searching amazon on 'naxos brahms piano music' you'll find more reasonable prices!

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                  • verismissimo
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    #24
                    Don't see anything remotely HIP here. Am I missing something?

                    Brahms in Budapest in November 1882 would have played what? A Broadwood? And the orchestra would have sounded quite different from the multitude of modern super-bands listed by Alpie.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      #25
                      I've completed the list now, so if I've missed anything, I've missed it.

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20570

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Absolutely - and especially given the key of this piece ... !
                        But check carefully. I made an exception for this work - the one B flat piece I really like.

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                        • vinteuil
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12801

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          I've completed the list now, so if I've missed anything, I've missed it.
                          ... and a marvellous piece of work it is too - many thanks.

                          You may wish to emend :

                          'François-Frédéric' is

                          François-Frédéric Guy, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Paavo Berglund



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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            #28


                            Done.

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                            • verismissimo
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2957

                              #29
                              Although he's in Alpie's list, I can't find a Kempff recording of PC2.

                              If he did not do one, I wonder why not, given his very extensive Brahms discography?

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26527

                                #30
                                I have an undying allegiance to the Richter performance with Leinsdorf and Chicago.

                                Gilels/Jochum is right at the top of the pile in No. 1 but I never warmed to their reading of No. 2.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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