BaL 9.03.19 - Mozart: Clarinet Quintet in A

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #16
    Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
    1992 Ernst Ottensamer; VPO / C Davis / Philips 438 868-2PH (6/94 – nla)
    Quintet, not Concerto
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Keraulophone
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1945

      #17
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      Quintet, not Concerto
      Thanks ferney; I had a late night (my 16yo sang sop solo from Ein deutsches Req in the cath)!

      This is probably the nearest to an Ottensamer we're going to get (last on R3 13/10/16 and not playable):

      The best of the BBC, with the latest news and sport headlines, weather, TV & radio highlights and much more from across the whole of BBC Online


      Moreover, Andreas cannot be heard thus on the Digital Concert Hall: https://www.berliner-philharmoniker....details/23645/
      Last edited by Keraulophone; 09-03-19, 10:44. Reason: sp.

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      • Goon525
        Full Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 597

        #18
        Originally posted by MickyD View Post
        Alpie - I think the Antony Pay version is with the AAM Chamber Ensemble, not the ASMF.

        Sorted.
        RW has just referred (rather dismissively) to a recording by Pay and the ASMF. So did he record it twice? I have the AAM CD too.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #19
          Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
          Thanks ferney; I had a late night (my 16yo sang sop solo from Ein deutches Req in the cath)!
          Oh, wow! That must have been a wonderful experience for you - and for her, too, of course. Many congratulations
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #20
            Originally posted by Goon525 View Post
            RW has just referred (rather dismissively) to a recording by Pay and the ASMF. So did he record it twice? I have the AAM CD too.
            Yes:



            and

            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Mal
              Full Member
              • Dec 2016
              • 892

              #21
              I thought he was going to go for Thea King or Julian Bliss until the very end. Also, I preferred King and Bliss in the clips. I have his "preferred period performance" From Wolfgang Meyer and the Mosaiques. This, for me, tied with Bliss & King for beauty of sound. So I'll keep it as my library choice (and hang quirkiness!)

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              • LeMartinPecheur
                Full Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 4717

                #22
                Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
                Thanks ferney; I had a late night (my 16yo sang sop solo from Ein deutches Req in the cath)!
                I hope she got the words a bit straighter than the choir's website listing - German grammarians look away now

                Miserere mei, Deus – Allegri
                Hear my prayer – Purcell
                In the midst of life – Purcell
                Ich habt nun Traurigkeit – Brahms
                Salvator mundi, Domine – Sheppard
                O saviour of the world – Howells
                Salvator mundi – Tallis
                Versa est in luctum – Victoria
                Versa est in luctum – Lobo
                Lord, let me know mine end – Greene
                Herr, lehre doch mich – Brahms
                Lord, let me know mine end –
                Parry

                Congratulations to her anyway
                I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
                  Thanks ferney; I had a late night (my 16yo sang sop solo from Ein deutsches Req in the cath)!

                  This is probably the nearest to an Ottensamer we're going to get (last on R3 13/10/16 and not playable):

                  The best of the BBC, with the latest news and sport headlines, weather, TV & radio highlights and much more from across the whole of BBC Online


                  Moreover, Andreas cannot be heard thus on the Digital Concert Hall: https://www.berliner-philharmoniker....details/23645/
                  I will have to search out whether I saved https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07yb2z9 , probably not, I think.

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                  • Master Jacques
                    Full Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1882

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mal View Post
                    I thought he was going to go for Thea King or Julian Bliss until the very end. Also, I preferred King and Bliss in the clips. I have his "preferred period performance" From Wolfgang Meyer and the Mosaiques. This, for me, tied with Bliss & King for beauty of sound. So I'll keep it as my library choice (and hang quirkiness!)
                    I'm with you Mal and am happy with my Meyer/Mosaïques disc. Yet what a pleasure this BaL was - lots of directive comments as to what to listen for, invitations to agree or disagree, and well-made points on style and tempi. I learnt a lot.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #25
                      I must admit that following a rather late night I drifted off a few times this morning, so may have missed a mention of this, my favoured recording:

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                      • Keraulophone
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1945

                        #26
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        I hope she got the words a bit straighter than the choir's website listing - German grammarians look away now

                        Miserere mei, Deus – Allegri
                        Hear my prayer – Purcell
                        In the midst of life – Purcell
                        Ich habt nun Traurigkeit – Brahms
                        Salvator mundi, Domine – Sheppard
                        O saviour of the world – Howells
                        Salvator mundi – Tallis
                        Versa est in luctum – Victoria
                        Versa est in luctum – Lobo
                        Lord, let me know mine end – Greene
                        Herr, lehre doch mich – Brahms
                        Lord, let me know mine end –
                        Parry[B]

                        Congratulations to her anyway
                        Thank you, I'll pass them on.

                        [Apologies for hijacking yet another thread, but...]

                        OMG [you can tell I've just returned from the US]... the cathedral's marketing dept. is entirely responsible for this, certainly no member of the music staff! I'm relieved to see that it was correct in the programme, written by a Lay Vicar.

                        My unbiased comparative assessment out of 10 for last night's Ihr habt nun Traurigkeit was:

                        E. Schwartzkopf - 6
                        M. Price - 9
                        I Seefried - 10
                        Miss K - 11

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                        • vinteuil
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12798

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          I must admit that following a rather late night I drifted off a few times this morning, so may have missed a mention of this, my favoured recording:

                          [ Hacker / Salomon ]
                          ... he did mention it and played an extract; he found it ponderously slow, and the Salomons a bit scrubby.

                          The period performance he recommended was the Wolfgang Meyer / Mosaiques.




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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11672

                            #28
                            I have the King and Puddy as well as Melos - sounds like I am covered .

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                            • pastoralguy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7746

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              Oh, wow! That must have been a wonderful experience for you - and for her, too, of course. Many congratulations

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                              • MickyD
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 4754

                                #30
                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                ... he did mention it and played an extract; he found it ponderously slow, and the Salomons a bit scrubby.

                                The period performance he recommended was the Wolfgang Meyer / Mosaiques.




                                .
                                I thought he was a bit uncharitable about the Salomons, calling them "weedy".
                                But what a shame that Antony Pay's AAM Chamber Ensemble was not even mentioned - this was a much-lauded disc when it first came out in the 80s. The couplings are excellent and now it's available for silly low prices on Amazon UK.

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