BaL 22.12.18 - Vivaldi: Gloria RV589

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #16
    I need a new recording of this so this should be very good.
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • Goon525
      Full Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 583

      #17
      Does anyone know why Caroline Gill, a most welcome addition to the Gramophone reviewing team about three years ago, didn’t stay there very long?

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20565

        #18
        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
        Hasn't just about everyone (especially those of us who sing in amateur choirs) got the King's version in its coupling with the Nelson Mass?
        Yes. It's the only version I have.

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        • MickyD
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 4734

          #19
          Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
          Surprisingly, I only have three versions so might be tempted by a recommendation:

          I first got to know the work when our choir sang it in the early 80s (and several times since). At the time I got AAM/Preston, which will always be a favourite. It was in this recording and the Dowland madrigals that many of us fell in love with Emma Kirkby.

          I love Sara Mingardo's warm, dark alto and her recording with Patricia Biccire & Deborah York, Concerto Italiano, Rinaldo Alessandrini is a delight. The breakneck tempo of the opening is bracing and I can take it, but it may go against it as a library version.

          In the light of more recent recordings the 1962 pre-HIPP Kings/ASMF/Willcocks may not quite be my first choice but I still very much enjoy it - light and natural sounding + Janet Baker in the alto part.
          I agree about the Alessandrini - it is exhilaratingly fast and enjoyable when you are in the mood, but whether it is the only one to live with as a library version is another question. I find it rather operatic in its way. I do think that the AAM one still holds up very well against the more recent competition.

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          • BBMmk2
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            #20
            Originally posted by MickyD View Post
            I agree about the Alessandrini - it is exhilaratingly fast and enjoyable when you are in the mood, but whether it is the only one to live with as a library version is another question. I find it rather operatic in its way. I do think that the AAM one still holds up very well against the more recent competition.
            Why’s that?
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • MickyD
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4734

              #21
              Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
              Why’s that?
              Several reasons really...the springy but not rushed speeds, excellent soloists, a stunning boys' choir, the AAM in their vintage years and that marvellous L'Oiseau Lyre recorded sound in the hands of the brilliant Peter Wadland.

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              • ardcarp
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11102

                #22
                There are various different editions of Vivaldi's Gloria.



                The blue vocal score (Ricordi) which used to abound in the UK was the truncated and inaccurate Casella edition...and it was always a good idea to hire orchestral parts which were the same!

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                • DracoM
                  Host
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 12919

                  #23
                  The reviewer.....crikey! If she's going to talk about tempi, maybe she needs to listen back to the dizzying speed of her OWN delivery. Far too fast on radio.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6593

                    #24
                    Exactly what I was thinking . It needs to be Allegro MA NON TROPPO. Also it really sounds like she's reading a script ....

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                    • MickyD
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4734

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                      Exactly what I was thinking . It needs to be Allegro MA NON TROPPO. Also it really sounds like she's reading a script ....
                      ...or a telephone directory.

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #26
                        Not enjoying this broadcast.

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                        • DracoM
                          Host
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 12919

                          #27
                          And she's going faster and faster...............CRAZY!

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                          • MickyD
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4734

                            #28
                            What's this 'Spav' version she keeps going on about?

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                            • Ein Heldenleben
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 6593

                              #29
                              Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                              And she's going faster and faster...............CRAZY!
                              Probably had a coffee delivered during one of the longer extracts

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                #30
                                Slow down, stupid people!

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