BaL 8.12.18 - Haydn: Piano Sonata in E flat, HOB XVI:52

[BBMmk2]

A two-fer, oh dear.

[robk]

Well that was weird. Listening to Building a Library from the internet stream using the VLC media player. Andrew and Iain got slower & slower and deeper & deeper as if they were falling asleep. I restarted VLC and they both woke up again. Perhaps I was falling asleep!

[Barbirollians]

I find I only have the Kissin and the Horowitz both of which I noted were mentioned well in dispatches - the two I enjoyed most were the Planes and the Brautigam that made the final three . I got the feeling the Lazic might be a bit much for repeated listening.

Planes duly ordered though it seems I may have nabbed the last reasonably priced secondhand CDs on Amazon.

[Sir Velo]

OMG it's a twofer and they didn't even warn us in advance.

The duo of the falling cadenzzzzzz

[Mal]

Bible and Shakespeare clause?

I thought it was ridiculous to reject Brendel and Schiff using the 'Bible and Shakespeare' clause. You might expect the listener to have the Bible and Shakespeare, but you can't expect the listener to have Brendel and Schiff in Haydn! If they think Brendel is best in Haydn they should say so, and clearly!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

OMG it's a twofer and they didn't even warn us in advance.

A two-fer, oh dear.

Yes - my heart sank when I heard this at the start. I got as far as IB's exaggerated rolled "rrrrr"s (in "oeuvrrrre" and "Therrrrresa") and gave up. I'll make do with the comments on the programme and the recommendations on this Thread.

[BBMmk2]

Yes - my heart sank when I heard this at the start. I got as far as IB's exaggerated rolled "rrrrr"s (in "oeuvrrrre" and "Therrrrresa") and gave up. I'll make do with the comments on the programme and the recommendations on this Thread.

I do admire Burnside’s piano playing but if this is his way of presenting, no thanks!

[ardcarp]

Burnside sounded bored. I was hoping for some real insights into this amazing sonata but got nothing but the obvious. Not enough music played to justify the choice.

[DracoM]

Sounded to me that he was all over the place, notes lost, or not made, and in fact AMcG did a lot of the heavy-lifting with Burnside busking.
How on earth Schiff wasn't outright winner utterly defeated me.

[verismissimo]

Whole CD of Haydn/Planes (inc 62) in the Harmonia Mundi Lumieres box at under 25 quid, plus 29 other discs. Remarkable bargain!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_2_8?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=lumieres&sprefix=lumieres%2Caps%2C259&crid=3SPWWXDP3JNDQ

[Dave2002]

Whole CD of Haydn/Planes (inc 62) in the Harmonia Mundi Lumieres box at under 25 quid, plus 29 other discs. Remarkable bargain!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...=3SPWWXDP3JNDQ

So that'll save me looking then - other than on my shelves.

Is the Lazic one this one - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-C...%3ADejan+Lazic

It should be possible to listen with Amazon Unlimited - currently I think 99p for 3 months. The one Amazon reviewer suggested the recording was too close for the Haydn. Whether surround sound really helps in the sonatas - not sure - and I'm not desperate for yet another Beethoven 2nd PC.

Brautigam seems to keep cropping up, and I expect I'll have to bite the bullet and buy his Mozart and also his Haydn sonata eventually.

[teamsaint]

Sounded to me that he was all over the place, notes lost, or not made, and in fact AMcG did a lot of the heavy-lifting with Burnside busking.
How on earth Schiff wasn't outright winner utterly defeated me.

So, no advance warning of the twofer, and IB apparently all over the place.
Makes you wonder if AMcG was brought in to save it ? Presumably the scripts get vetted ?

[visualnickmos]

This must be one of the least-commented on, BaLs - ever!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

This must be one of the least-commented on, BaLs - ever!

No - they tend to be on Rossini operas, which get about a dozen comments each.

[HighlandDougie]

So, no advance warning of the twofer, and IB apparently all over the place.
Makes you wonder if AMcG was brought in to save it ? Presumably the scripts get vetted ?

TS

I don't think that the scripts are vetted - although the programmes are edited, post-recording (rude comments sometimes being excised). I wouldn't go quite as far as saying that IB was all over the place but, as all the above comments suggest, he seemed disengaged. Maybe he doesn't like the format or, perhaps more likely, he ran out of time in preparing it, hence AMcG being involved. But it was all a bit rum, not least that declaration of Brendel and Schiff as somehow hors concours. I liked the spread of recordings illustrated but, much though I like Dejan Lazic's Bartok/Scarlatti CDs, I rather agree that it might get a bit wearing on repeated listening. Brautigam, though, is on my "buy" list.