BaL 8.12.18 - Haydn: Piano Sonata in E flat, HOB XVI:52

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20582

    BaL 8.12.18 - Haydn: Piano Sonata in E flat, HOB XVI:52

    09.30
    Building a Library: Iain Burnside picks a personal favourite from among the recordings of Haydn's Piano Sonata in E flat, HOB XVI:52
    Written in 1794, this is the last and one of the greatest of Haydn's piano sonatas. In this piece Haydn expanded the sonata structure beyond its normal scope, explored unusual harmonies and developed his thematic material with unusual rigour. Haydn wrote it for the outstanding pianist Therese Jansen, who lived in London at the time of his visits there in the 1790s.

    Available recordings:-

    Ilse von Alpenheim
    Arthur Ancelle
    Wilhelm Backhaus
    Tom Beghin
    Malcolm Bilson
    Rafal Blechacz*
    Michele Boegner*
    Ronald Brautigam
    Alfred Brendel
    Rudolf Buchbinder
    Rachel Cheung
    Julia Cload
    Gary Cooper (SACD)
    Ulrika Davidsson*
    Ekaterina Derzhavina
    Iván Eröd
    José Feghali
    Péter Frankl *
    Andrei Gavrilov*
    Glenn Gould
    Monique Haas
    Marc-André Hamelin
    Stanley Hoogland
    Vladimir Horowitz
    Jeno Jando
    Gilbert Kalish
    Evgeny Kissin
    Alexander Kobrin
    Evgeni Koroliov
    Lili Kraus
    Anton Kuerti*
    Geoffrey Lancaster
    Dejan Lazic (SACD)
    Hans Leygraf*
    John Lill
    Leon McCawley
    John McCabe
    Anne-Marie McDermott
    Giovanni Mazzocchin*
    Tomoko Ogasawara
    Walter Olbertz
    Bart van Oort
    Theodore Paraskivesco*
    Carmen Piazzini
    Alain Planès
    Mikhail Pletnev
    Kadar Qian*
    Anne Queffelec
    Roman Rabinovich
    Dezsõ Ránki*
    Sviatoslav Richter
    Alexander Romanovsky
    Roberta Rust
    Andras Schiff
    Ragna Schirmer
    Christine Schornsheim*
    Andreas Staier*
    Michael Studer*
    Mark Swartzentruber
    Dinorah Varsi
    Zhi Xiao-Mei*
    Gottlieb Wallisch (SACD)
    André Watts
    Alexis Weissenberg
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 09-12-18, 23:26.
  • CallMePaul
    Full Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 809

    #2
    The Buchbinder box of Haydn's complete piano sonatas (plus other pieces) was a Christmas present last year. As well as the late sonatas, I have got to know the earlier, rarely played works from these recordings. In my view Buchbinder is an underrated pianist whose playing I first got to know when I heard his Edinburgh Festival Beethoven cycle on R3 a few years ago. However, I would like to supplement this box with a fortepiano version so will listen to this programme with great interest.

    By the way, few collectors and editors still use the Hoboken numbering for these sonatas. The edition and numbering of Christa Landon has superseded Hoboken's and so this sonata should be described as No 62 or Landon 62, possibly with the old number in brackets afterwards.

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    • silvestrione
      Full Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1741

      #3
      Only just got to know this marvellous sonata (I know...).

      Have heard Horowitz, Brendel, and Rafal Blechasz, the first and last on the radio. I was knocked over by the Blechasz in particular. Does the asterisk mean download only?

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      • Richard Barrett
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        • Jan 2016
        • 6259

        #4
        I remember clearly the first time I knowingly heard a Haydn piano sonata, it was maybe 15 years ago when I was browsing in a CD shop and trying to work out what this marvellous piano music was that they were playing. When I finally gave up and asked, it turned out to be Ronald Brautigam's disc of sonatas 48-52, so I eventually acquired his whole set, being somewhat amazed that Haydn had produced yet another enormous and beautiful body of work alongside those I already knew. So that's that as far as I'm concerned, for now anyway. I also have the complete Schornsheim set which I don't like as much apart from the fact that it's more varied in timbre by using several different instruments (harpsichord for the earlier sonatas). Anyway the E flat sonata under discussion is surely one of the most memorable. I look forward to hearing about the other fortepiano recordings I'haven't yet encountered.

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #5
          Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
          . . . Does the asterisk mean download only?
          It would appear so, though Internet searches will often find discs no longer officially in the catalogue.

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          • gurnemanz
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7455

            #6
            Just listened to versions I have: Richter, Planès, McCabe from the complete set. All good, but I think my favourite listen and certainly the most fun, (and probably a BaL non-contender) was Maria Yudina in limited but very acceptable sound from 1951 on her 8CD Brilliant Classics set, (now only second hand). The recording is otherwise available, eg on this disc but I note that it is on what looks like an excellent-value bumper edition which is due out in a week or so. She makes McCabe sound very sedate.

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #7
              I have, in alphabetical order, Beghin (Blu-ray Audio), Brautigam (CD), Derzhavina (CD), Schiff (DVD) and Schornshiem(CD). I would not willingly part with any of them, but for me, the Beghin (a Chris Maene instrument built in 2005, after a Walter built after 1791, recorded in an acoustic modelled on that of the Festaal, Palais Lobkowitz, Vienna) just has the edge, at the moment.

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #8
                Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                Just listened to versions I have: Richter, Planès, McCabe from the complete set. All good, but I think my favourite listen and certainly the most fun, (and probably a BaL non-contender) was Maria Yudina in limited but very acceptable sound from 1951 on her 8CD Brilliant Classics set, (now only second hand). The recording is otherwise available, eg on this disc but I note that it is on what looks like an excellent-value bumper edition which is due out in a week or so. She makes McCabe sound very sedate.
                The forthcoming Yudina set does look very enticing. I might wait to see what happens via the the Amazon Marketplace before ordering though.

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                • MickyD
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4897

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                  I remember clearly the first time I knowingly heard a Haydn piano sonata, it was maybe 15 years ago when I was browsing in a CD shop and trying to work out what this marvellous piano music was that they were playing. When I finally gave up and asked, it turned out to be Ronald Brautigam's disc of sonatas 48-52, so I eventually acquired his whole set, being somewhat amazed that Haydn had produced yet another enormous and beautiful body of work alongside those I already knew. So that's that as far as I'm concerned, for now anyway. I also have the complete Schornsheim set which I don't like as much apart from the fact that it's more varied in timbre by using several different instruments (harpsichord for the earlier sonatas). Anyway the E flat sonata under discussion is surely one of the most memorable. I look forward to hearing about the other fortepiano recordings I'haven't yet encountered.
                  Snap, Richard - I too have both sets, and like you, I am a huge admirer of the Brautigam...I play it so often and love not just the playing but the ideal recording acoustic, too. I hope it will rank highly in this BAL. I feel the same way about Brautigam's complete Mozart set as well.

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                  • Richard Barrett
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                    • Jan 2016
                    • 6259

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                    Snap, Richard - I too have both sets, and like you, I am a huge admirer of the Brautigam...I play it so often and love not just the playing but the ideal recording acoustic, too. I hope it will rank highly in this BAL. I feel the same way about Brautigam's complete Mozart set as well.
                    Brautigam's passagework in the last movement is quite amazing - a highly convincing demonstration of what the fortepiano is capable of. This afternoon I listened to Paul Badura-Skoda in this work (on Qobuz, though it isn't on EA's list). He of course was an important pioneer in the revival of the instrument and I have the feeling his work has been improved upon technically by succeeding generations of players, despite the deep sense of involvement and expression his performances always have (too closely recorded for you, I imagine, Micky!).

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                    • MickyD
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4897

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      Brautigam's passagework in the last movement is quite amazing - a highly convincing demonstration of what the fortepiano is capable of. This afternoon I listened to Paul Badura-Skoda in this work (on Qobuz, though it isn't on EA's list). He of course was an important pioneer in the revival of the instrument and I have the feeling his work has been improved upon technically by succeeding generations of players, despite the deep sense of involvement and expression his performances always have (too closely recorded for you, I imagine, Micky!).
                      Spot on, Richard...much as I love what Paul Badura-Skoda does, his recordings are far too close and dry for my taste. It's a shame as I would have liked to have got hold of his complete Schubert cycle. I just hope that someone like Brautigam takes on that project....at least for the moment I have the superb discs of Schubert that Staier did for Das Alte Werk.

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 11277

                        #12
                        For me, this is exactly the sort of work the BBC MM cover disc was invented for: not something that would ordinarily be in my collection, but a work I'd be prepared to listen to at least once to see if I'm missing something.
                        I guess I'll have to listen to the programme instead.


                        PS: Actually, it's partly what Building a Library was invented for, too, at least for me!
                        PPS: One Haydn piano sonata has appeared so far, HOB XVI:50, played by Louis Schwizgebel. Must listen later.
                        Last edited by Pulcinella; 30-11-18, 07:46. Reason: PS then PPS added.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #13
                          I used to play this one myself.

                          I have Marc-Andre Hamlin and Andras Schiff playing. Both excellent.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #14
                            Re #7, I quite forgot a few, including Staier, van Oort and Gould.

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                            • mikealdren
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1225

                              #15
                              OMG it's a twofer and they didn't even warn us in advance.

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