BaL 3.11.18 - Stravinsky: Mass

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
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    #16
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    No - the usual double wind quintet is used. (Part of an "album" called Copland and his American Contemporaries!!!!)

    Ah! The listing on the Presto site does not mention the accompaniment/accompanists.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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      • Sep 2011
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      #17
      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

      Ah! The listing on the Presto site does not mention the accompaniment/accompanists.
      Nor are they mentioned on Amazon - in fact, it's only by playing the MP3 extracts that I could find out they took part!
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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        • Sep 2011
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        #18
        Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
        I think Auntie must be mixing Igor up with Francis (Poulenc), whose own not-dissimilar Mass followed soon after the renewal of his faith. It's certainly a very odd comment to make about a life-long Russian Orthodox Christian, for whom this Mass was only a departure, in so far as it was his first setting of the Catholic-Anglican liturgy.
        I think that you might well have something there, MJ.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • ardcarp
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          I struggle with Stravinsky's choral music so I think I shall be giving this one a miss.
          I can quite understand your not wanting to hear this Barbs, but even if only from curiosity, do give the Mass a try. Personally, I think it's a terrific piece. (I first sang it as a student too, like pastoralguy.) It doesn't try too hard to express anything...almost as if the words of the Mass are a peg to hang the notes on. And the harmonic language is by no means extreme. Jeremy Summerly is a great reviewer, and this should be a classic BAL...hope so anyway. No pressure, Jeremy.

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          • rauschwerk
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1488

            #20
            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            Same one?
            Oh yes, I was dozy and hadn't seen your post when I posted mine. I too love this version.

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #21
              Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
              Oh yes, I was dozy and hadn't seen your post when I posted mine. I too love this version.



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              • Lordgeous
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                • Dec 2012
                • 840

                #22
                I didn't know Westminster Cathedral Choir had recorded it so thanks for the heads up. Have ordered a used copy.

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post


                  Available recordings (ed. Pulcinella)

                  Thanks for simplifying by taking out the soloist details (probably from other works on the CDs).
                  Some of these are download only though, and others only as Presto's own CDs, according to their site.
                  There's a download only Stravinsky one with 'Double Wind Quintet, Chorus of Men and Boys, Warren Fowley, Igor Stravinsky' on the Sinetone label, released 28 March 2017. No idea where it hails from!

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                    • Sep 2011
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    There's a download only Stravinsky one with 'Double Wind Quintet, Chorus of Men and Boys, Warren Fowley, Igor Stravinsky' on the Sinetone label, released 28 March 2017. No idea where it hails from!
                    It's the composer's recording from 1949/50, Pulcie - Warren Foley (sic) was the choirmaster.

                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      It's the composer's recording from 1949/50, Pulcie - Warren Foley (sic) was the choirmaster.

                      https://www.discogs.com/Igor-Stravin...elease/9991595
                      Definitely not "download only". It is in the most recent Sony big Stravinsky box, along with the other two mentioned. I already had it in the ANDaNTE triple CD set (Vol. 3, disc 3).

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                        • Sep 2011
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                        #26
                        It looks as if the "2017" date - together with the misspelling of Foley's name - originates in a Russian MP3 version of the recording, and a "back transliteration" from the Cyrillic version of Mr Foley's name.

                        It also looks from the link I gave in #24 as if the recording of the Mass was originally re-released on a seven-inch 33.3 rpm "single"; RCA's short-lived "answer" to Columbia's (et al) twelve-inch LP.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Pulcinella
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                          • Feb 2014
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          It's the composer's recording from 1949/50, Pulcie - Warren Foley (sic) was the choirmaster.

                          https://www.discogs.com/Igor-Stravin...elease/9991595

                          Presto give the name as Fowley.
                          It's on CD 6 in the big box that Bryn mentions, also listed separately (without any Foley or Fowley) on the Presto site:
                          Stravinsky: Orpheus & Mass. Sony: G010003467365X. Buy download online. RCA Victor Symphony Orchestra, Church of the Blessed Sacrament Choir, Igor Stravinsky

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                          • Pulcinella
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                            • Feb 2014
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            ..... I already had it in the ANDaNTE triple CD set (Vol. 3, disc 3).
                            Looks an interesting set, Bryn, but not at £65 used or £123 new, when mostly now in the big box too!

                            I have the Bernstein recordings, and think I used to have the Herman Ebony Concerto on LP.
                            Last edited by Pulcinella; 29-10-18, 20:51. Reason: Only one n in Herman!

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                            • Bryn
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                              • Mar 2007
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                              Looks an interesting set, Bryn, but not at £65 used or £123 new.
                              it's available, new, from a couple of Amazon marketplace suppliers, for around £20.

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                              • Pulcinella
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                                • Feb 2014
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                it's available, new, from a couple of Amazon marketplace suppliers, for around £20.
                                Much better, but it's all in the big box (other than works conducted by others) isn't it?
                                Superficial check in the booklet suggests it is.

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