BaL 20.10.18 - Bach: Keyboard concertos - BWV.1052-58

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 10906

    #16
    Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
    Murray Perahia’s recordings, are they not available anymore?
    Yes, BBM: they're in Alpie's splendid list.

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #17
      Re. Leonhardt, it should be noted that his Teldec survey does not include BWV 1052 (in that collection the work is played by Herbert Tachezi with the CmW under Harnoncourt). Leonhardt's recording of the work is on a Sony Seon CD, couple with a CPE Bach concerto.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12798

        #18
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Re. Leonhardt, it should be noted that his Teldec survey does not include BWV 1052 (in that collection the work is played by Herbert Tachezi with the CmW under Harnoncourt). Leonhardt's recording of the work is on a Sony Seon CD, couple with a CPE Bach concerto.
        ... also available in this yummy box :



        [ disc 58 ]


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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #19
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... also available in this yummy box :



          [ disc 58 ]


          .
          Which is where my copy resides when not being spun.

          About to listen to some for the Céline Frisch recordings with Café Zimmermann.

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          • HighlandDougie
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3083

            #20
            Originally posted by MickyD View Post

            Incidentally, has anyone heard the Staier/Freiburg set?
            It seems to be the only easily accessible (as in, not in a bumper box requiring rearranging of shelves to access) harpsichord version I have - it has much to recommend it, as one would expect from these performers. That's not meant to sound like damning with faint praise - they are fine performances.

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12798

              #21
              Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
              ... (as in, not in a bumper box requiring rearranging of shelves to access) ...

              ... ah, glad I'm not the only one!


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              • MickyD
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 4754

                #22
                This one will also sadly not make the grade, as it only features some of the concerti. A pity, as I like it a lot:

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Yes, BBM: they're in Alpie's splendid list.
                  Couldn’t see them!
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • doversoul1
                    Ex Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7132

                    #24
                    I don’t know about the experts on the forum but I am gripped!

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                    • Barbirollians
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11673

                      #25
                      Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
                      I don’t know about the experts on the forum but I am gripped!
                      I have been in and out of the room that R3 is playing in and I have not heard anything of the Pinnock yet.

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                      • doversoul1
                        Ex Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7132

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        I have been in and out of the room that R3 is playing in and I have not heard anything of the Pinnock yet.
                        That’s the point. It’s nearly the end but no Pinnock.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #27
                          Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
                          That’s the point. It’s nearly the end but no Pinnock.
                          Nor Café Zimmermann, except as a venue.

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                          • LeMartinPecheur
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4717

                            #28
                            Is it likely that Bach really preferred one instrument to a part in these concertos? If the violin concertos demand more than one violin I, II and viola, presumably these were pretty much on tap is his standard band? (But do they? Has anyone recorded them one inst per part?) Or is this not comparing like with like, making too big a jump in time or place of performance?

                            Just asking, and I'm not at all wishing to throw out all the 1 inst per part versions heard this morning.

                            My choice from his last three (Egarr, Asperen, Staier) would probably have been the Asperen - got slightly put off the 'big band' Staier, great sonority that it was with a bigger band to match his big harpsichord, by what I heard as a tendency in his strings to fade off the last notes of key phrases.
                            I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11673

                              #29
                              I have to admit to preferring keyboard concertos that come in other arrangements and of course Brandenburg No 4 - in those forms . Like Bryn I seldom listen to them.

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                              • Richard Barrett
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                                • Jan 2016
                                • 6259

                                #30
                                Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                                Is it likely that Bach really preferred one instrument to a part in these concertos? If the violin concertos demand more than one violin I, II and viola, presumably these were pretty much on tap is his standard band? (But do they? Has anyone recorded them one inst per part?)
                                None of Bach's ensemble music demands more than one instrument per part, and even if more instruments were "on tap" at the time and place the harpsichord concertos were produced, it's really a matter of simple acoustics - if you want a quiet instrument like a harpsichord to be a solo voice in an ensemble, that ensemble absolutely needs to be small. Recordings with larger ensembles will inevitably be giving the soloist a bit of artificial help.

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