BaL 12.05.18 - Britten: Winter Words Op. 52

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    BaL 12.05.18 - Britten: Winter Words Op. 52

    9.30
    Building a Library: Britten's Winter Words, Op 52, with Kate Kennedy.
    Britten composed Winter Words, his eight setting of Thomas Hardy, in 1953 at a time when he was also working on his operas Gloriana and The Turn of the Screw. The style of Winter Words does, however, contrast with that of the two operas in its austere textures, while allowing the Hardy texts to be projected with particular clarity. After the opening song, Day Close in November, comes Midnight on the Great Western, which even includes train-whistle noises. Then comes The Wagtail and Baby, The Little Old Table and The Choirmaster's burial (or The Tenor Man's Story), in which the departed master's favourite hymn-tune 'Mount Ephraim' is woven into the texture. Proud Songsters is followed by At the Railway Station, Upway (or The Convict and the Boy With the Violin), and the whole cycle ends with Before Life and After, a powerful expression of Britten's fascination with the conflict between innocence and experience.

    Available versions:-

    Ian Bostridge, Sir Antonio Pappano
    Richard Edgar-Wilson, Eugene Asti
    James Gilchrist, Anna Tilbrook
    Anthony Rolfe Johnson, Graham Johnson (SACD)
    Anthony Rolfe Johnson, Graham Johnson
    Philip Langridge, Steuart Bedford
    Malcom Martineau, Robin Tritschler
    Daniel Norman, Christopher Gould
    Mark Padmore, Roger Vignoles
    Ian Partridge, Jennifer Partridge
    Peter Pears, Benjamin Britten
    Peter Pears, Benjamin Britten
    Nicholas Phan, Myra Huang
    Robert Tear, Sir Philip Ledger
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 12-05-18, 16:03.
  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    This will be interesting... I've got quite a few of these, and iirc prefer Langridge and Rolfe-Johnson hitherto - but looking forward to hearing what the Gilchrist/Tilbrook version sounds like in particular, been listening a lot to them in Finzi songs recently and love their way with those.
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20568

      #3
      I've listed Pears/Britten twice, as they appear on different labels.

      Can anyone advise me on whether they are one and the same?

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      • crb11
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        • Jan 2011
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        #4
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        I've listed Pears/Britten twice, as they appear on different labels.

        Can anyone advise me on whether they are one and the same?
        Michael Kennedy's biography lists two recordings: a studio recording from March 1954 on Decca, 425 996-2, and a live recording from Snape in September 1972, giving a catalogue number AF 001. I don't know which label this was, or if the recording is available on CD (it's on youtube part 1 and part 2. Amazon also have MP3s (perhaps CDs) which come from other live recordings (BBC, 1957; Leningrad 1963 or 1966).

        I don't know if this has helped or clouded the matter further!

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        • BBMmk2
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          This be rather good, as I never heard of this song cycle before!
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #6
            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
            This be rather good, as I never heard of this song cycle before!
            That surprises me, Bbm - the setting of the Choirmaster's Burial I thought was quite well-known.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • ardcarp
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              This is going to be a close call IMVHO. It would be good never to have heard Pears/Britten (how could one manage without them?) and start with a tabula rasa...but that's impossible.

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              • Beef Oven!
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                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #8
                I've just two sets of this enchanting song-cycle - Langridge/Bedford and Bostridge/Pappano. I don't envisage adding another .............

                Edit: Make that three - how did I forget the Britten/Pears






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                Last edited by Beef Oven!; 04-05-18, 16:51.

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  This be rather good, as I never heard of this song cycle before!
                  You're in for a real treat BBM!

                  And listen out for the last song.

                  ferney, this is no time for levity!

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                  • Petrushka
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Not being terribly keen on either non-orchestral Britten or the song cycle this work is completely new to me as well. I do, however, admire Britten's inspired choices of setting English texts so might well investigate this.
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                    • Nevilevelis

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                      Not being terribly keen on either non-orchestral Britten or the song cycle this work is completely new to me as well. I do, however, admire Britten's inspired choices of setting English texts so might well investigate this.
                      Err, OK! IMV the greatest 20th c. English song-cycle. Singing it (in a Royal Opera House lunchtime recital) convinced me of that, but possibly not my audients! Get stuck in!

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                      • EdgeleyRob
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12180

                        #12
                        There is also Justin Lavender/Julian Milford (ex Carlton Classics) presumably nla.
                        It's a fine performance but probably wouldn't win.

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                        • LMcD
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                          • Sep 2017
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                          This be rather good, as I never heard of this song cycle before!
                          You've got a real treat in store, I would say, whether or not you're an admirer of Thomas Hardy!

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                          • BBMmk2
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            You're in for a real treat BBM!

                            And listen out for the last song.

                            ferney, this is no time for levity!
                            I will! thanks Beefy! Cheers Ferney!
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • Mal
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                              • Dec 2016
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                              You've got a real treat in store, I would say, whether or not you're an admirer of Thomas Hardy!
                              I'm an admirer, and I think it's worth going beyond the "big novels". His first novel, "Under the Greenwood Tree", is a good read for music lovers. It's not at all dark, and is a fascinating portrayal of how music was integrated into village life.

                              "The plot concerns the activities of a group of church musicians, the Mellstock parish choir, one of whom, Dick Dewy, becomes romantically entangled ... The novel opens with the fiddlers and singers of the choir—including Dick, his father Reuben Dewy, and grandfather William Dewy—making the rounds in Mellstock village on Christmas Eve. When the little band plays at the schoolhouse, young Dick falls for Fancy at first sight... The vicar, Mr Maybold, informs the choir that he intends Fancy, an accomplished organ player, to replace their traditional musical accompaniment to Sunday services. The tranter and the rest of the band visit the vicar's home to negotiate, but reluctantly give way to the more modern organ..."



                              The initial scene with musicians doing the rounds on Christmas Eve is especially heart warming and amusing.
                              Last edited by Mal; 05-05-18, 11:58.

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