BaL 28.04.18 - Brahms: Symphony no. 1 in C minor

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  • Conchis
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    • Jun 2014
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    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Furtwangler the BPO recording from 1952 on DG.
    Bloody hell! I'm sure as a performance it's unsurpassed but didn't they used to give a 'historical' recommendation, as well as a 'modern' one?

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
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      Originally posted by Conchis View Post
      Bloody hell! I'm sure as a performance it's unsurpassed but didn't they used to give a 'historical' recommendation, as well as a 'modern' one?
      Chailly was the runner up I think with Norrington third

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20570

        I'd just like to be super-smug and mention that I got it right on #10.

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        • Padraig
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          • Feb 2013
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          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          I'd just like to be super-smug and mention that I got it right on #10.
          But E A, you know there's no right answer

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          • vinteuil
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            • Nov 2010
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            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

            I enjoyed this BaL - I was greatly attracted to Jurowksi, Norrington, and Chailly ...
            ... likewise. The Chailly was very beguiling, and I have been beguiled. The most efficient seemed to be a complete works, so have gone for



            (tho' have got it cheaper on amazon.de... ).

            I was bowled over by the Furtwängler, and was tickled that he chose it as an especial winner - I already had it, a great motivator to listen again. I must see if I can get the SWR Norrington...

            But we really need an Interpretations on Record - I wd've loved to have heard his take on Norrington LCP - Karajan - Walter - Toscanini - Kertész - Szell - Celibidache - Manze - and so many more.






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            Last edited by vinteuil; 28-04-18, 14:23.

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            • visualnickmos
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              • Nov 2010
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              Well - what an 'interesting' BaL! The outcome, most definitely.... Herr Furtwangler - is it really, really, the 'best' one to have, if only one Brahms first was allowed in one's collection?
              Chailly - I don't know what to think, to be honest. I would need to listen further; there was something slightly lacking, perhaps, but I can't quite define what it was! I did enjoy the excerpts (which are for obvious reasons, not much more than a taster) but I do like the weight and might of some of the regular war-horses. Klemperer, Jochum, Hvk (his early 1960s) and Solti, for example. I very much warmed to Barenboim with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, although the reviewer was rather tepid towards it.

              The debate continues...

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              • vinteuil
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                • Nov 2010
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                Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                ... I very much warmed to Barenboim with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, although the reviewer was rather tepid towards it.
                ... I didn't get the feeling he was tepid about it : rather, he was strongly agin it, bicoz he thought that Barenboim was trying (especially in the second movement) to make it something (monumental) which it wasn't.


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                • richardfinegold
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                  • Sep 2012
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                  Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                  Bloody hell! I'm sure as a performance it's unsurpassed but didn't they used to give a 'historical' recommendation, as well as a 'modern' one?
                  See #19

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                  • gradus
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    I think it was grainy back and white film of Furtwangler conducting Brahms syms and the extraordinary playing of his BPO that first convinced me that he had an extraordinary affinity with the music, fine as others are. Hearing the 1952 recording today reminded me of the sheer power of his readings in this passionate music.

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                    • kea
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                      • Dec 2013
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                      Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                      Well - what an 'interesting' BaL! The outcome, most definitely.... Herr Furtwangler - is it really, really, the 'best' one to have, if only one Brahms first was allowed in one's collection?
                      yes, in my view >.> but for sure there are going to be different viewpoints on that, I think most people would probably consider the 'best' one to be a modern recording in state-of-the-art quality. Chailly is probably a reasonable choice though I'm not a particular fan yet.

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                      • DoctorT

                        Chailly would be my current favourite, but I'm not parting with Norrington and the London Classical Players any time soon. No mention of it, or JEG's ORR recording unless I wasn't listening carefully enough

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                          But E A, you know there's no right answer
                          True, but it's nice to appear to be right, once in a while.

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                          • Petrushka
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            Can someone kindly provide either the CD catalogue number or a link to the Furtwängler recording please? I can't find it on Amazon.

                            Thanks
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • Bryn
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                              • Mar 2007
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                              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                              Can someone kindly provide either the CD catalogue number or a link to the Furtwängler recording please? I can't find it on Amazon.

                              Thanks
                              ASIN: B0046767OQ

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                              • Petrushka
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                ASIN: B0046767OQ

                                Thanks Bryn. I've just found I've actually got that box lurking on my shelves!!
                                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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