BaL 3.02.18 - Beethoven: Piano Sonata no. 30 in E major, Op.109

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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
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    #61
    Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
    Isn't that nice of Mr Amazon to warn me: You purchased this item on 1 Jun 2015.
    ... ah, mine says : You purchased this item on 26 Jun 2014.

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    • waldo
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      • Mar 2013
      • 449

      #62
      Originally posted by HighlandDougie
      Hmm, having seen/heard him recently, the word "oafish" is not one which comes to mind in relation to Richard Goode........
      Quite. I really can't think of a pianist less "oafish". A player of the utmost sensitivity, lyricism and intelligence - a "pianist's pianist", as the saying goes. I would place his compete Beethoven sonatas right at the top of the pile, even if I prefer others for individual sonatas. I still remember the struggle to get it: at the time, it was over a hundred pounds, which I couldn't afford, but I knew someone who knew someone who had it..........It took months of Iago-like scheming before I could get my trembling hands on it.

      As for Gilels, I haven't listened to that in a few years, but my memory is that much of his set (I think he recorded all but 2 or 3; he died of some medical cock-up in a Soviet hospital before he could finish) - my memory was that the sound was often quite hard and pingy, especially on the high notes. Quite tough on the ears. I can't remember of opus 109 suffered from this, but the Hammerklavier and others certainly did).

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #63
        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
        ... ah, mine says : You purchased this item on 26 Jun 2014.

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        Mine says May 24th 2014. My cheapo order for the 4 disc set currently reads "We're cancelling your order". Trouble is, it's been like that for some time. We shall see. The hazards of ordering in haste when away from one's discs.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20576

          #64
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Naaah! He'd've hated the monochrome "modern" piano - bygguring up his harmony, incapable of the meticulous Una corda shading that the Music requires.

          He'd've loathed the taming of the sounds and bleached timbres.

          I tell myself this all the time!
          He liked the new instruments of the time. Most composers do when they get the chance.

          JS Bach was an exception.

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          • vinteuil
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12964

            #65
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            Mine says May 24th 2014. My cheapo order for the 4 disc set currently reads "We're cancelling your order". Trouble is, it's been like that for some time. We shall see. The hazards of ordering in haste when away from one's discs.
            ... if you've already got the eight-CD icon box, surely you don't need the four-CD box whch merely replicates those CDs??


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            • Bryn
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              • Mar 2007
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              #66
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ... if you've already got the eight-CD icon box, surely you don't need the four-CD box whch merely replicates those CDs??


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              Hence the second, third and fourth sentences.

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              • vinteuil
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                • Nov 2010
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                #67
                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                Hence the second, third and fourth sentences.
                ... sorry, my misunderstanding. But hey, a couple of pounds saved for you!

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                • Alison
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #68
                  The complete Goode cycle available on iTunes 12.99.

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                  • Bryn
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #69
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    ... sorry, my misunderstanding. But hey, a couple of pounds saved for you!

                    Too early for celebration. Te current order status reads "Attempting to Cancel. Your order is being prepared for shipment. We are attempting to cancel it now. We’ll e-mail you as soon as this status changes.".

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      He liked the new instruments of the time. Most composers do when they get the chance...
                      Indeed - and wrote so well for them. He even managed to put together a listenable piece for the Panharmonicon, so he should have coped well enough with a Steinway!

                      Joshing aside, this morning's programme kept emphasizing just how endlessly astonishing this work is - and so many performances that do it justice in so many different ways. I suspect that I shall be spending quite a lot of money as a result of this!
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Bryn
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                        • Mar 2007
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Indeed - and wrote so well for them. He even managed to put together a listenable piece for the Panharmonicon, so he should have coped well enough with a Steinway!

                        Joshing aside, this morning's programme kept emphasizing just how endlessly astonishing this work is - and so many performances that do it justice in so many different ways. I suspect that I shall be spending quite a lot of money as a result of this!
                        Having spend rather a lot on this and the other Beethoven percussive keyboard sonata recordings over the years, and having today foolishly attempted to spend a little more on a recording I already have, and already having all five recommended recordings, I do not plan on spending any more on recordings of this particular work at the moment. Who knows, however, what the morrow might bring?

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                        • BBMmk2
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #72
                          Would no other recording do?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • vinteuil
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            Would no other recording do?
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                            ... well, no one recording 'does', completely.

                            But there were lots of good things in many of the CDs discussed. As always, the real winner was Beethoven...


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                            • soileduk
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 338

                              #74
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                              As always, the real winner was Beethoven...


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                              And, quite possibly, us.

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                              • vinteuil
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12964

                                #75
                                Originally posted by soileduk View Post
                                And, quite possibly, us.
                                ... yes, thank you - so right - we are the winners.

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