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BaL 11.11.17 - Shostakovich: Symphony no. 11 (The Year 1905)
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Originally posted by mahlerei View PostWould be good to have Sondergard's 2013 Prom of the 11th as a BBC MM disc. Any chance, I wonder?[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by mahlerei View PostFor those who may think the Wigglesworth is all about superb sonics, I'd say the performance is, without doubt, one of the finest I've heard in recent years. Indeed, I'd suggest that's true of Wigglesworth's cycle as a whole.Don’t cry for me
I go where music was born
J S Bach 1685-1750
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Originally posted by mahlerei View Post... Would be good to have Sondergard's 2013 Prom of the 11th as a BBC MM disc. Any chance, I wonder?
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Originally posted by HighlandDougie View PostMy heart also sank when I realised that it was a twofer but I found Gerard McBurney's, if I can be permitted to use the word, "exegesis", on the symphony to be, as Beefy puts it, "scholarly, experienced and so interesting". Exactly. I'm sorry that it wasn't longer as I would have liked more music but I came away from the programme with a new respect for
I suppose that hints at a possible criticism of the analysis as a survey of recordings - I thought it was much more informative about the piece than about the range of performances out there, which seemed to shrink rapidly to a shortlist of the favoured few. Then again, he did explain that by saying that the majority were let down by inadequate recordings, especially of the bass range of the instrumentation (some "disgusting" recordings, he said - strong word).
But I found it an absorbing listen, and the 'dialogue' format didn't intrude too much, largely because Gerard McBurney's articulate knowledge and confidence seemed to silence Andrew McGregor more than usual.
The Wigglesworth performance and recording on the Qobuz HiRes stream is electrifying!
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostCompletely agree, ditto with antongould and BeefO. I've always rated the piece but emerged from this hour much better informed about it - notably the cumulative meaning of all the songs quoted in it, as well as DSCH's own chorus.
I suppose that hints at a possible criticism of the analysis as a survey of recordings - I thought it was much more informative about the piece than about the range of performances out there, which seemed to shrink rapidly to a shortlist of the favoured few. Then again, he did explain that by saying that the majority were let down by inadequate recordings, especially of the bass range of the instrumentation (some "disgusting" recordings, he said - strong word).
But I found it an absorbing listen, and the 'dialogue' format didn't intrude too much, largely because Gerard McBurney's articulate knowledge and confidence seemed to silence Andrew McGregor more than usual.
But, I'm afraid I did find that the amiable enthusings of Noddy McGregor got in the way of McBurney's excellent discussion; not least at the point where it sounded as if GMcB dropped his notes off the table, and when he stumbled (twice!) over a Russian song title. Neither would have happened if he'd been allowed to prepare his comments in detail - without having to worry about what (and when) AMcG was going to interrupt him. Nor did I think that the litany of "Yes that is good, isn't it?" and "But what about ... " comments from AMcG made up at all for the lost examples of "disgusting" recordings, or the ability to make exact comparisons of the same extract from different recordings.
Heigh-ho![FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Am I the only one who doesnt like the 2 way conversation in Building a Library? Its this fashion in todays style of presenting having someone to "bounce opinions off each other" it actually highlights the weakness of a reviewer unable to write a complete review of selections and present it all in a coherent enjoyable way ."Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"
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I witnessed Wigglesworth series of a selection of Shostakovich symphonies in the 1990s with BBC NOW and they were great. Sad when he left and infact I have rarely been back to St Davids Hall since. Wigglesworth 20th Century music with the Welsh band there was of an extremely high standard."Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"
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Originally posted by ucanseetheend View PostAm I the only one who doesnt like the 2 way conversation in Building a Library?
Its this fashion in todays style of presenting having someone to "bounce opinions off each other" it actually highlights the weakness of a reviewer unable to write a complete review of selections and present it all in a coherent enjoyable way .[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by seabright View PostWhy not download it from You Tube and copy it onto a recordable DVD or audio CD-R from there? ... You may want to omit the hand-waving T Service's intro, though it does include film of the composer as well ... ;) ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9lo9ZDYuDU&t=2244s
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An excellent BaL. I learned a lot about the work, and about some top recordings , more or less as much as one can hope for within the constraints of time. Much enhanced by McBurney's modest approach .I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by ucanseetheend View PostAm I the only one who doesnt like the 2 way conversation in Building a Library? Its this fashion in todays style of presenting having someone to "bounce opinions off each other" it actually highlights the weakness of a reviewer unable to write a complete review of selections and present it all in a coherent enjoyable way .
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