BaL 23.09.17 - Franck: Symphony in D minor

[Barbirollians]

Poulenc satirised the main theme of its finale in his 1920 ballet score "Les Biches" rather well, though - as did Warlock in one of his two "cod pieces".

We did this on Summer BAL recently I think . Perhaps EA can join them up ?

[Barbirollians]

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?8954-Our-Summer-BAL-no-24-Franck-Symphony-in-D-Minor/page4

Not all that recent - 2013- at least Radio 3 are slowly catching up with us .

Monteux remains my favourite I think - though I have a lot of time for Beecham , Munch, Silvestri and Furtwangler in this work .

There were two Furtwanglers in circulation one I think from 1945 and the 1951 which was on Decca .

[cincinnatus]

Otherwise the Monteux/CSO recording is the one that stands out in my memory

That's not surprising, Richard. Monteux/CSO was the chosen version when the Franck Symphony was last considered back in 1999. Cantelli was the runner-up.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

We did this on Summer BAL recently I think . Perhaps EA can join them up ?

Leave it with me.

[Nick Armstrong]

The Franck Symphony is a work that for some reason does not engage me and the main themes I find rather corny and disenchanting. I accept that it's me and my taste, not the work!

It's me and mine too, Stan. I think it may be the work!

And S_A I had no idea that the Franck is satirised in Les Biches, which I know very well! Hadn't made the connection at all (I try not to think about the Franck too much!) - will listen with a newly-curious (and affectionate) ear to the Poulenc next time!

[vinteuil]

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... it's a work I used to like a lot, but haven't listened to for ages. Must dust down the CDs...

I think my favourite versions are the Herreweghe, Jean Martinon with the ORTF, and the Celibidache with the Swedish RSO [not in Alpie's list, I think... ]

http://amzn.eu/8QM9R3m

The Giulini with the Vienna Phil (live, June 1993) is implausibly turgid, unlistenable-to -

The fastest at 33:58 is Paray / Detroit Symphony on 'Mercury' and the slowest is Stokowski / Hilversum Radio Philharmonic in 'Phase-4 Stereo' on 'Cala' at 43:42! ...
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Giulini here takes 46 minutes and 41 seconds...


... o for FX Roth and les Siècles to have a go at it! - as I was saying back in July 2013 -

... yes, a HIPP Franck wd be v welcome - FX Roth and les Siècles??

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[Serial_Apologist]

It's me and mine too, Stan. I think it may be the work!

And S_A I had no idea that the Franck is satirised in Les Biches, which I know very well! Hadn't made the connection at all (I try not to think about the Franck too much!) - will listen with a newly-curious (and affectionate) ear to the Poulenc next time!

In the Suite it's the third movement: the Adagietto, Caliban.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I still cringe when I think of the appalling DG sound on the first ever digital recording (FNO/Bernstein).

[Pulcinella]

Leave it with me.

Have you inadvertently deleted Barbi's original Summer BAL posting, Alpie, by editing in the list for the forthcoming 2017 BAL?

[HighlandDougie]

I love this work - and am not ashamed to say so, given the amount of opprobrium which it seems to attract from, dare I say it, musical snobs. Sad to see that my favourite recent recording - Louis Langrée conducting the Orchestre Philharmonique de Liège (coupled with the Chausson Symphony) - does not seem to be generally available. Terrific performance - in the local Scots patois, he gies it laldy. And it's none the worse for such a full-blooded approach. Given the excellence of the François-Xavier Roth Franck disc with Cédric Tiberghien (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Chasseur-Ma...ds=franck+roth), I fully second pleas for Les Siècles to include it in their repertoire/record it.

[visualnickmos]

I love this work - and am not ashamed to say so, given the amount of opprobrium which it seems to attract from, dare I say it, musical snobs...

My sentiments exactly. A work which seems to lend itself to many approaches and variable nuances. I have a few versions, and it seems to me that even in that limited range, there are vastly different interpretation "styles" - how great is that? Surely the mark of a universally 'doable' work....? Excellent, in my VHO.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Have you inadvertently deleted Barbi's original Summer BAL posting, Alpie, by editing in the list for the forthcoming 2017 BAL?

I think I must have done.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I love this work - and am not ashamed to say so, given the amount of opprobrium which it seems to attract from, dare I say it, musical snobs.

Now then! Let's not get all Suzy Klein! There will be people who are not snobs who will dislike it, and people who are who might love it. I'm mostly indifferent to it - a work I enjoy in a good performance, but rarely actively seeking it out to listen to. I have three recordings - Furtwangler (DECCA), Karajan, and Monteux. I used to have the BBC MusMag cover CD with the work, but that was such a dreadful performance (with an even worse Poeme de l'amour et de la Mer) that I binned it.

[gurnemanz]

On LP Boult was for years my only version. My CD choice, which I have not regretted, was the Monteux/Chicago. While not playing it that often, I also very much have a soft spot for this work ....as I do for most of his output. Remoter paths I have recently greatly enjoyed treading are songs and solo piano - Sergio Fiorentino

[Barbirollians]

I think I must have done.

Name your seconds Sir !