BaL 23.09.17 - Franck: Symphony in D minor

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

It is only 5 - 5 and 6 are last year's resuscitated- No7 actually just follows on from No 3

Too much for my brain.

[visualnickmos]

I'm beginning to think this Summer BaL is getting a bit OTT, with 8 since the last "real" Ba! which was only a couple of weeks ago.

It proves that there is a demand.
But why is there no BaL when the proms is on? It's like saying "I didn't go to the library today because it's Thursday....!"

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

It is only 5 - 5 and 6 are last year's resuscitated- No7 actually just follows on from No 3

For a moment there, I thought you were talking about the latest renumberings of the Dvorak Symphonies.

Roger Nicholls (as is his wont) also dissed the Karajan recording on a "real" BaL many years ago, but it's always been my "preferred" recording of the work: I used to think that this was because of the very reasons many others disliked it ("too Germanic"), but I recently bought the Charles Munch (coupled with the d'Indy) and have greatly enjoyed that. On cassette, I also have Furtwangler, doing his best to make it sound like Bruckner. I can't help wishing that he'd done a complete Bruckner #6, instead.

[Hornspieler]

Was it with the BSO ? I note that there is a Silvestri version in the big Icon box but I am too busy being thrilled by his mono New World at the moment to put it on . Cantelli's version sounds like it is trying to escape the sound quality - a shame he did not get a chance to record it with the Philharmonia.

I've never been a fan of Cesar Franck - possibly because of having to slog through those sickening variations (Dee Dee Dah Dah) when at the RAM as student after student grappled with them on Friday afternoons with Clarence Raybould and Orchestra A.

Just not my style, but I do have Silvestri's recording of the symphony with the BSO which almost makes me change my mind - but then someone plays "Le Chasseur Maudit" and the old prejudice returns.

Nevertheless, they do say that One Man's Meat is another man's Poisson and I certainly do recommend that those interested have a listen to Silvestri's recording if they can. (No, I am not playing on this one)

HS

[salymap]

I like the violin sonata, a friend played the piano part, his brother the violin, at the Wigmore Hall years ago.

Can't stand the C-F symphony, don't mind [much] the variations.

[umslopogaas]

Well, it is a bit of an old warhorse, but hey, you cant fight a war without horses (I'm really not sure what I mean by that). Back in the early days of stereo it must have been more popular than now, because I have six LP versions:

Monteux and Chicago SO
Munch and Boston SO
Bernstein and New York PO
Beecham and French National Radio O
Ansermet and OSR
Monteux and San Francisco SO (mono)

I think my favourite was the Bernstein, when I last played through them.

[amateur51]

Well, it is a bit of an old warhorse, but hey, you cant fight a war without horses (I'm really not sure what I mean by that). Back in the early days of stereo it must have been more popular than now, because I have six LP versions:

Monteux and Chicago SO
Munch and Boston SO
Bernstein and New York PO
Beecham and French National Radio O
Ansermet and OSR
Monteux and San Francisco SO (mono)

I think my favourite was the Bernstein, when I last played through them.

That looks a pretty nifty set of recommendations, umslopogaas . My one requirement is that the performance isn't allowed to drop of; it's got to go at a bit of a lick, especially the outer two movements but also in the slow movement.

[umslopogaas]

Good point ams. I cant remember performance details, but I think you'd be safe with Bernstein, he usually keeps things moving along at a good speed. Monteux always looks fairly relaxed, I must give him another go and see if he keeps up the pace.

[cloughie]

Agree with CSO Monteux and like BSO Munch - just listening to BamSO Lehmann DG 1954 - nice performance - recording shows some age.

[HighlandDougie]

Old warhorse or not, I have to confess to a great liking of it. Apart from the usual suspects (neatly encapsulated by umslopoglaas above), I'd add Maazel (recorded when he was young and interesting) and Louis Langrée and the Liège Philharmonic (coupled with the Chausson equivalent). Not so sure about Jan Latham-Koening which I vaguely remember downloading in return for a donation but which is the version I have on my phone.

[Barbirollians]

I don't know the Munch and feel an urge to obtain a copy . I have always been a fan of old Charles M and his Honegger records recommended by JLW have given me a great deal of pleasure .

[vinteuil]

... from memory (am currently several thousand miles from my CDs, and plan to remain so for a couple of weeks... ) I have Mengelberg, Toscanini, Furtwangler, Beecham - all interesting; probably a Karajan? (can't remember); a Giulini with the Vienna Phil that is surprisingly leaden and which I wdn't chooses to listen to again - and the one which is my current choice : Jean Martinon with the ORTF.


EDIT : ... yes, a HIPP Franck wd be v welcome - FX Roth and les Siècles??

[Barbirollians]

... from memory (am currently several thousand miles from my CDs, and plan to remain so for a couple of weeks... ) I have Mengelberg, Toscanini, Furtwangler, Beecham - all interesting; probably a Karajan? (can't remember); a Giulini with the Vienna Phil that is surprisingly leaden and which I wdn't chooses to listen to again - and the one which is my current choice : Jean Martinon with the ORTF.


EDIT : ... yes, a HIPP Franck wd be v welcome - FX Roth and les Siècles??

I find that the Herreweghe Franck D Minor is in my Amazon autorip - the CD having gone on an extended holiday so I shall give it a listen as I am having the afternoon off

[umslopogaas]

Barbirollians, my version by Munch and the Boston S. O. is on a 1958 English RCA stereo LP, SB-2009. I dont know if it made it onto CD.

[cloughie]

Barbirollians, my version by Munch and the Boston S. O. is on a 1958 English RCA stereo LP, SB-2009. I dont know if it made it onto CD.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Franck-Symphony-D-Minor-Pennario/dp/B000025LHJ/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1374852429&sr=1-3&keywords=FRANCK+SYMPHONY+MUNCH

Franckly inexpensive!