BaL 8.07.17 - Vaughan Williams: Dona Nobis Pacem

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    BaL 8.07.17 - Vaughan Williams: Dona Nobis Pacem

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    Building a Library: Alexandra Coghlan recommends the best recording of Vaughan Williams's plea for peace, tolerance and understanding written in 1936, his Dona Nobis Pacem. The piece is on a huge scale, scored for soloists, chorus and large orchestra, in six continuous parts, and the phrase Dona nobis pacem "Give us peace" recurs throughout; a theme with perennial relevance.

    Available versions:-

    Judith Howarth, Sir Thomas Allen, Corydon Singers, Corydon Orchestra, Matthew Best
    Sheila Armstrong, John Carol Case, London Philharmonic Orchestra, London Philharmonic Chorus, Sir Adrian Boult
    Bryn Terfel, Yvonne Kenny, London Symphony Orchestra & Chorus, Richard Hickox
    Christina Pier, & Matthew Brook, The Bach Choir & Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra, David Hill
    Christopher Maltman, Sarah Fox, Colorado Symphony Chorus & Colorado Symphony, Andrew Litton
    Carmen Pelton, Nathan Gunn, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra & Chorus, Robert Shaw
    Jessica Rivera, Brett Polegato, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra Chorus. Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, Robert Spano (download)
    Edith Wiens, Brian Rayner Cook, London Philharmonic Choir, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Bryden Thomson
    Renee Flynn and Roy Henderson, BBC Symphony Orchestra, Ralph Vaughan Williams
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 08-07-17, 10:42.
  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
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    #2
    Alpie: the orchestra in the RVW-conducted performance is the BBC Symphony (Presto's listing is wrong if that's where you got the information from; the LPO are the performers for the coupling, the fifth symphony).



    This RVW performance, recorded on 13 November 1936, was also released as a BBC MM CD, as the 'filler' (not identified on the spine) to a Menuhin performance of the Beethoven violin concerto: volume 20, number 4 (January 2012).

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      Alpie: the orchestra in the RVW-conducted performance is the BBC Symphony
      Thanks for that. Duly amended.

      Does anyone know who the vocal contributors are in the Robert Shaw recording?

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      • Pulcinella
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        • Feb 2014
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        #4
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Thanks for that. Duly amended.

        Does anyone know who the vocal contributors are in the Robert Shaw recording?
        Yes: see here (shot of back of CD case).
        Carmen Pelton and Nathan Gunn



        (BBC Symphony Chorus on the RVW recording if you want to add that too, Alpie! I should have said in my previous post; sorry! You could add 'and Chorus' to the Shaw as well.)

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        • PJPJ
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
          Alpie: the orchestra in the RVW-conducted performance is the BBC Symphony (Presto's listing is wrong if that's where you got the information from; the LPO are the performers for the coupling, the fifth symphony).



          This RVW performance, recorded on 13 November 1936, was also released as a BBC MM CD, as the 'filler' (not identified on the spine) to a Menuhin performance of the Beethoven violin concerto: volume 20, number 4 (January 2012).

          https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-V...na+nobis+pacem
          I was going to write that the Somm recording with VW conducting is essential to any lover of the music VW (the Symphony No 5 is wonderful), but I see that's what the quoted review on Somm's website says (so I'll simply agree):

          "It’s a mandatory purchase for all lovers of Vaughan Williams’s music and, frankly, a priceless document." John Quinn BBC Radio 3 Critics Disc of the Year Gramophone Best of Category - Historic Archive Premier CD Release recorded off the air during a Prom Concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 1952. Dona Nobis Pacem recording by BBC of first broadcast performance at BBC Studios in 1936. 'As a composer performer Vaughan Williams took the creative process a step further than the printed score and presented his work in its natural medium, that of sound'.

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          • PJPJ
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Thanks for that. Duly amended.

            Does anyone know who the vocal contributors are in the Robert Shaw recording?


            Telarc's Robert Shaw bio

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
              Many thanks for that.

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              • visualnickmos
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Just looking at my shelves, and discovered that I have Boult's and Hickox's recordings! What could possibly go wrong?
                I will not be adding another.... that's for sure.

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                  Just looking at my shelves, and discovered that I have Boult's and Hickox's recordings! What could possibly go wrong?
                  I will not be adding another.... that's for sure.
                  Are you really sure?

                  (Yes, I have those two too, but the 1936 RVW is VERY special!)

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                  • visualnickmos
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    Are you really sure?

                    (Yes, I have those two too, but the 1936 RVW is VERY special!)
                    I am sure it is, but I just don't think I could live with such an antiquitous recording...

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                    • seabright
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                      • Jan 2013
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                      #11
                      I guess the Maurice Abravanel / Utah Symphony 'Vanguard' CD (rec. 1966) won't be in the running, due to it being "not available" which is a pity, as it's a splendid recording, coupled with an equally splendid RVW6. The 'Beat! Beat! Drums!' section is on You Tube for anyone interested in a 'taster' ...

                      Vaughan WIlliams's Cantata 'Dona Nobis Pacem' had its first performance in 1936 and was, in those turbulant times, a kind of musical plea for peace. It incor...

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                      • EdgeleyRob
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        ....the 1936 RVW is VERY special!)
                        Yes indeed

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                        • EdgeleyRob
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                          I am sure it is, but I just don't think I could live with such an antiquitous recording...
                          Bet you could

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            ... the 1936 RVW is VERY special!)
                            Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                            Yes indeed


                            RVW was such a good conductor of his own Music, as shown in his recordings of his Fourth and Fifth Symphonies, this DNP, and the Old King Cole Suite. It beggars belief that he wasn't given the same recording opportunities that were (rightly) enjoyed by Elgar. (I have five CDs which feature this work - Boult, Best ... and three versions of the composer's own recording: on PEARL, SOMM, and the BBCMusMag!)
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • BBMmk2
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #15
                              I am on cloud 9! This work has helped me an awful lot, these past few monthsd. It has given me good therapy. to say the least. I have David Hill's Naxos version. I be intereste3d as always to know about RVW's recording!
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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