BaL 24.06.17 - Telemann: Water Music 'Hamburger Ebb' und Fluth'

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Building a Library: Simon Heighes sifts through the available recordings of Telemann's Water Music 'Hamburger Ebb' und Fluth' and makes a recommendation. Commissioned in 1723 to celebrate the Hamburg Admiralty's centenary, Telemann's colourful suite of dances, with its allusions to ancient gods of wind and sea and to merry boatmen and the Elbe, hit the spot with Hamburgers to become the most popular and most performed secular work in his lifetime.


Available Versions:-

Collegium Pro Musica, Stefano Bagliano (download)
The Moscow Chamber Orchestra, Rudolf Barshai
Zefiro, Alfredo Bernardini
Il Fondamento, Paul Dombrecht
Musica Antiqua Köln, Reinhard Goebel
The King's Consort, Robert King
Höör Barock, Dan Laurin
Cappella Coloniensis, Hans-Martin Linde (download)
Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Sir Neville Marriner
New London Consort, Philip Picket
Le Concert des Nations, Jordi Savall
Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin, Maurice Steger
Syrinx
Akademie für Alte Musik
Berliner Barock Compagney
Leipziger Bach Collegium
Cappella Coloniensis

[verismissimo]

Has anyone counted up the number of Telemann's works? It's an awful lot!

[BBMmk2]

Has anyone counted up the number of Telemann's works? It's an awful lot!

Never mind the quantity, feel the quality!

I have the old ASMF/Marriner version, on Argo. A great non-HIPP recording, I f I don't say so!

[vinteuil]

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... I don't know whether the Zefiro / Bernardini on arcana due to be released on 23 June

http://amzn.eu/ioZ62Zu

is different from the Zefiro / Bernardini already in the catalogue, apparently recorded at the Lufthansa Festival in 2003 -

http://amzn.eu/0TYzY8f

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Never mind the quantity, feel the quality!

I have the old ASMF/Marriner version, on Argo. A great non-HIPP recording, I f I don't say so!

Non-HIPP recordings are often great.

[vinteuil]

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... anyone would think that Alpie preferred Historically Uninformed Performance Practice - or perhaps Historically Misinformed Performance Practice ...

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... anyone would think that Alpie preferred Historically Uninformed Performance Practice - or perhaps Historically Misinformed Performance Practice ...

I do prefer music to be played in a way that will help it to sound its best. There will be different opinions on this of course.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I do prefer music to be played in a way that will help it to sound its best. There will be different opinions on this of course.

You are quite right, though - Pre-HIPP recordings can be marvellous, 'though I wasn't at all keen on the Tafelmusik played at the end of today's Essential Classics.

The "Ebb and Flo" is Music I do not know at all - I think I've heard it once - and as this is a McGregor Exclusion Zone BaL, I shall tune in with high heighe hopes next week.

[vinteuil]

Pre-HIPP recordings can be marvellous...

... of course they can. But I was surmising a preference for un-HIPP

: I wasn't at all keen on the Tafelmusik played at the end of today's Essential Classics.
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... indeed, that Wenzinger Tafelmusik was dire in its heaviness. Just the sort of 1960s period style that Rob Cowan likes...



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[vinteuil]

The "Ebb and Flo" is Music I do not know at all - I think I've heard it once - and as this is a McGregor Exclusion Zone BaL, I shall tune in with high heighe hopes next week.

... I suggest an early investment. The following are good value -

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http://amzn.eu/iVTjleM

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[MickyD]

I only have the MAK/Goebel recording and that does very well for me, even though Goebel does drag out the slow opening of the overture a bit. Would like to hear the Pickett version.

[Richard Barrett]

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... I don't know whether the Zefiro / Bernardini on arcana due to be released on 23 June

http://amzn.eu/ioZ62Zu

is different from the Zefiro / Bernardini already in the catalogue, apparently recorded at the Lufthansa Festival in 2003 -

http://amzn.eu/0TYzY8f

It is indeed the same recording. And IMO the best one (also of the Handel Water Music it's combined with).

I wouldn't call those old recordings by Wenzinger dire though, I was pretty happy with them when they were the only ones to have moved in the direction of period style and instrumentation. I wouldn't listen to them any more though.

[Bryn]

It is indeed the same recording. And IMO the best one (also of the Handel Water Music it's combined with).

I wouldn't call those old recordings by Wenzinger dire though, I was pretty happy with them when they were the only ones to have moved in the direction of period style and instrumentation. I wouldn't listen to them any more though.

Thanks for recommending this recording back in December. Fortunately I struck while the iron was hot, and got it (Used: Very Good) for just over a fiver including p&p. It appears to have increase in price a little since than.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

... I suggest an early investment. The following are good value -

Many thanks for these suggestions, vinty - I was going to wait for the programme, but I suspect there'll be considerable price inflation then; and your judgement is one I trust at least as much as Mr Heighes'.

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and your judgement is one I trust at least as much as Mr Heighes'.