BaL 25.02.17 - Ives: Symphony no. 2

[visualnickmos]

I struggle with commas!

Was relieved when the Transit came along.

..... and took you to Luton...

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Was relieved when the Transit came along.

What!?

Oh.

For a very happy moment there I thought ...

[Pulcinella]

Still lost on me, I'm afraid.
(And I wheeled my bike home yesterday when the chain fell off, so I didn't need a lift in a white van!)

[Beef Oven!]

Still lost on me, I'm afraid.
(And I wheeled my bike home yesterday when the chain fell off, so I didn't need a lift in a white van!)

[Pulcinella]

Ah, I see now.
A return to the times Leavers are so keen for us to enjoy again.

[mikealdren]

Well, if you decide that the reason for AM to be involved is because ES needed him to hold his hand, that would be hard to believe. But that’s a straw-man. Things evolve, change, over time and we either like the change or not. I happen to like the double-act format as much as the traditional approach, and quite welcome it from time to time. We know that there have been quite a number poor single-handed BaLs down the years (and recent times, too), so format is not the explaining variable.

There have certainly been some poor BaLs over the years but I fail to see how the 2 handed approach would have helped them. At least this week wasn't too disturbed by unnecessary chit chat; it sounded reasonably spontaneous and not too pre-rehearsed.

[Pulcinella]

There have certainly been some poor BaLs over the years but I fail to see how the 2 handed approach would have helped them. At least this week wasn't too disturbed by unnecessary chit chat; it sounded reasonably spontaneous and not too pre-rehearsed.

Indeed, and someone must have been keeping a pretty close eye on the clock to fit in all the excerpts and chat in the time slot available!

[Beef Oven!]

There have certainly been some poor BaLs over the years but I fail to see how the 2 handed approach would have helped them. At least this week wasn't too disturbed by unnecessary chit chat; it sounded reasonably spontaneous and not too pre-rehearsed.

I never said that a 2-handed approach would have helped them, that’s a straw-man. The point is that the quality or otherwise of a BaL is not determined by whether there is one, or two people delivering it.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

There have certainly been some poor BaLs over the years but I fail to see how the 2 handed approach would have helped them. At least this week wasn't too disturbed by unnecessary chit chat; it sounded reasonably spontaneous and not too pre-rehearsed.

Yes - and one of the most interesting points (the barn dance fiddlers origin of the final squelch) was raised by AMacG rather than ES, who did not seem to be aware of it, and certainly didn't get the significance of it if he was.

[Beef Oven!]

Ah, I see now.
A return to the times Leavers are so keen for us to enjoy again.

Oi!

I’m looking to the future - 2-handed BaLs, modern vans, downloads ......

[Barbirollians]

A cheap BAL despite the cut Lenny in 1958 enough for me .

[soileduk]

For a better informed, though not particularly up to date, survey of recordings of the work, see http://www.musicweb-international.com/Ives/RR_Sym_2.htm .

Well I'll be damned, I seem,somehow, to have the top five.

[ahinton]

Shoulders back, look straight ahead and get on with it in a British manly fashion!

Have you temporarily adopted a Grewdonym, by chance!(!)...

[mikealdren]

Oi!

I’m looking to the future - 2-handed BaLs, modern vans, downloads ......

Personally I prefer the old vans - more character!

[ardcarp]

On to Ives, if you decide to go for the earlier Bernstein, and you’re ok with downloads, may I suggest a look at Qobuz who have it for a mere £3.09 c/w symphony #3 and Bernstein's excellent discussion of Ives.

http://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/ive...021?qref=dac_6

Thanks Beefy.