BaL 11.02.17 - Bach: Mass in B minor

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #91
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Coming up shortly.
    Damn forgot it!
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • MickyD
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 4875

      #92
      I can't see the Robert King/King's Consort all-male voices version from Hyperion in the list.

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      • doversoul1
        Ex Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7132

        #93
        Only one recording of Agnus dei ...

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        • Thropplenoggin
          Full Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1587

          #94
          A wonderful overview of how performing traditions have changed over time and a new recording to investigate (available on Qobuz for subscribers: http://player.qobuz.com/#!/album/0761203785124) The 'Cum Sancto Spiritu' in the second Gardiner recording sounded ludicrously hard-driven. I'd been listening to different versions all week and decided to add Parrott's OVPP to my copy of JEG's earlier recording and Herreweghe's Harmonia Mundi recording.
          It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #95
            Listened up to the last ten minutes when I got a phone call from overseas that I couldn’t ignore

            Was really enjoying this very informative and interesting BaL. Who won?

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            • doversoul1
              Ex Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 7132

              #96
              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
              Listened up to the last ten minutes when I got a phone call from overseas that I couldn’t ignore

              Was really enjoying this very informative and interesting BaL. Who won?
              Building a Library: Bach's B Minor Mass
              Recommended recording:

              Maria Keohane (soprano), Joanne Lunn (soprano), Alex Potter (countertenor), Jan Kobow (tenor), Peter Harvey (bass), Concerto Copenhagen, Lars Ulrik Mortensen (conductor)
              CPO 7778512 (2Hybrid SACD)

              Other recommended recordings:
              Below is a shortlist of other recordings which Nick Kenyon also liked, although we can’t guarantee the availability of these discs.

              Jennifer Smith (soprano), Michael Chance (counter-tenor), Nico van der Meel (tenor), Harry van der Kamp (bass), Netherlands Chamber Choir, Orchestra of the 18th Century, Members, Orchestra Of The 18th Century, Frans Bruggen (conductor)
              DECCA 4800098

              Emma Kirkby (soprano I), Emily Van Evera (soprano II), Panito Iconomou (alto), Rogers Covey-Crump (tenor), David Thomas (bass), Solisten Des Tolzer Knabenchors, Taverner Consort, Players, Andrew Parrott (conductor)
              ERATO 5619982 (2CD)

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #97
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                Listened up to the last ten minutes when I got a phone call from overseas that I couldn’t ignore

                Was really enjoying this very informative and interesting BaL. Who won?
                Here you go:

                Building a Library: Bach's B Minor Mass

                Recommended recording: Maria Keohane (soprano), Joanne Lunn (soprano), Alex Potter (countertenor), Jan Kobow (tenor), Peter Harvey (bass), Concerto Copenhagen, Lars Ulrik Mortensen (conductor)
                CPO 7778512 (2Hybrid SACD)

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                • DracoM
                  Host
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 13005

                  #98
                  Have to say the Andrew Parrott version really caught my ear. Loved the clean lines and spare geology of the instrumentation.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #99
                    Didn't like JEGGER's DG recording then?
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
                      Building a Library: Bach's B Minor Mass
                      Recommended recording:

                      Maria Keohane (soprano), Joanne Lunn (soprano), Alex Potter (countertenor), Jan Kobow (tenor), Peter Harvey (bass), Concerto Copenhagen, Lars Ulrik Mortensen (conductor)
                      CPO 7778512 (2Hybrid SACD)

                      Other recommended recordings:
                      Below is a shortlist of other recordings which Nick Kenyon also liked, although we can’t guarantee the availability of these discs.

                      Jennifer Smith (soprano), Michael Chance (counter-tenor), Nico van der Meel (tenor), Harry van der Kamp (bass), Netherlands Chamber Choir, Orchestra of the 18th Century, Members, Orchestra Of The 18th Century, Frans Bruggen (conductor)
                      DECCA 4800098

                      Emma Kirkby (soprano I), Emily Van Evera (soprano II), Panito Iconomou (alto), Rogers Covey-Crump (tenor), David Thomas (bass), Solisten Des Tolzer Knabenchors, Taverner Consort, Players, Andrew Parrott (conductor)
                      ERATO 5619982 (2CD)
                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08dnhd0
                      Thank you very much, doversoul.

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                      • Thropplenoggin
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1587

                        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                        Have to say the Andrew Parrott version really caught my ear. Loved the clean lines and spare geology of the instrumentation.
                        It can be had very reasonably: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-li...w+parrott+bach
                        It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                        • Pianoman
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 529

                          My sort of BAL this, the perfect mixture of scholarship, insight and a genuine love of the recorded history of the work. I happen to agree with his conclusions but would have enjoyed it even if i hadn't !

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            Didn't like JEGGER's DG recording then?
                            Well, he preferred it to the 2013 recording (and, if I understood him correctly, to the Herreweghe and Suzuki approaches).

                            I agree with Thropple's summary of the BaL (and of the newer JEGgers version) - the best BaL NK has ever done, IMO. I will probably get the Mortensen pair at some time, but I still very firmly adore the Parrott recording (and am very annoyed that no record company thought it worth their while to record his St Matt Pass). A great pity that Panito Iconomou's breath-takingly beautiful Agnus Dei wasn't given air time. And the bargain box with Leonhardt feels even more tempting now.

                            (AND - although I concede that these things are very relative! - Karajan in 1954 still sounds more "authentic" than Richter's a decade later.)
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              Originally posted by Pianoman View Post
                              My sort of BAL this, the perfect mixture of scholarship, insight and a genuine love of the recorded history of the work. I happen to agree with his conclusions but would have enjoyed it even if i hadn't !
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • ardcarp
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11102

                                The Parrott has long been primus inter pares of OVPP versions IMO. It is really hard, however, for this format to be as satisfactory in a live performance (either for singers or audience) as the chamber choir format. The B minor is just too heavily scored. Three or four singers to a part seems ideal...unless you like the big chorus sound. Unfashionable though it is, I've been blown away by the latter on several occasions.

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