BaL 14.01.17 - Tchaikovsky: Symphony no. 4 in F minor

[BBMmk2]

Saves me a few pennies!

[Beef Oven!]

Saves me a few pennies!

Quite often with BaLs, I’m captured by something other than the winner and will often buy that instead. Of course the whole business is entirely subjective - but quite a lot of fun!

[ardcarp]

Interesting that no-one's yet mentioned what Silvestri does to the opening fanfares. Let's hope RC duly provides a demo!

He did.

[ardcarp]

Fair comment! Point made.

We always used to sing it to 'Have a cup of tea Mrs Jackson'

My favourite Tchaik theme tthough was; 'Once I was a virgin, now I am a whore. Used to do it nightly, now I do it more and more and more and......'

[5th Symphony]

[Tony Halstead]

Just had a quick listen to this on Spotty - what on earth's he doing with the opening horn call's phrasing...? End of the second bar, a quick gap (or stutter...)..sound most odd to me, but as usual excellent playing and recording, certainly better than what I heard of his Pathetique.

Hmmm... because of his training as a viol player and his grounding in 'baroque style' he is treating bars 3 and 4 each as a self-contained 'cell' that doesn't use the last note of each bar (F) as upbeats that join those bars together over the barlines. This is a way, a somewhat wilful one, of standing 'tradition' on its head by simply playing a very well-known work 'differently'... 'shock/horror'
I've ordered the Mravinsky ( WONDERFUL oboe, certainly not 'nervous' as Rob suggested) and the Bernstein/ NYPO.

[ardcarp]

( WONDERFUL oboe, certainly not 'nervous' as Rob suggested)

I was puzzled by that too.......

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I was puzzled by that too.......

... as was I; but then Mr Cowan's comments on the Music he plays often baffle me.

[pastoralguy]

I was surprised that Abbado and Vienna Philharmonic didn't get a mention.

Oh yes! I hadn't noticed at the time, but that omission - with Maazel/VPO is surprising from RC.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Aaaarrggggh!!!!!!

I'm terribly sorry, especially to pastoralguy - I've deleted instead of replying to his post!

He wrote:

I was surprised that Abbado and Vienna Philharmonic didn't get a mention.

... to which I replied:

Oh yes! I hadn't noticed at the time, but that omission - with Maazel/VPO is surprising from RC.

Profuse apologies, pasto!

[pastoralguy]

Aaaarrggggh!!!!!!

I'm terribly sorry, especially to pastoralguy - I've deleted instead of replying to his post!

He wrote:

I was surprised that Abbado and Vienna Philharmonic didn't get a mention.

... to which I replied:



Profuse apologies, pasto!

No problem, Ferney

I seem to remember the Guide to Penguins gave the Abbado a rosette. I'm playing it now and it's pretty good.

[BBMmk2]

What's the Abbado like. I have never thought of him as a Tchaik conductor?

[visualnickmos]

Quite often with BaLs, I’m captured by something other than the winner and will often buy that instead. Of course the whole business is entirely subjective - but quite a lot of fun!

It's not only me, then! I seem to do it nearly everytime.... provided it's a BaL that I'm interested in, in the first place, that is... and quite a few fall into this category, so I can pop to the shops instead!

[HighlandDougie]

What's the Abbado like. I have never thought of him as a Tchaik conductor?

He has recorded all the symphonies at least once (see https://www.amazon.co.uk/Claudio-Abb...ikovsky+abbado) and some twice (see https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tchaikovsky...ikovsky+abbado and https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Symphonie...ovsky+5+abbado). There is also a BPO 5th on Sony. I have a particular soft spot for that VPO 4th as I saw him conduct the LSO in Birmingham Town Hall in a scorching performance of it sometime in the Middle Ages.

[cloughie]

What's the Abbado like. I have never thought of him as a Tchaik conductor?

Very good as are his 2 5 & 6 on DG, also a CSO 1 - 6 set on Sony.

[BBMmk2]

Very good as are his 2 5 & 6 on DG, also a CSO 1 - 6 set on Sony.

Thanks. Will dabble!