BaL 31.12.16 - Bruckner: Symphony no. 3 in D minor

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  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12936

    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
    You shouldn’t take him too seriously.
    ... probably not worth including in Alpie's list, I wd think.

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    • Beef Oven!
      Ex-member
      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      ... probably not worth including in Alpie's list, I wd think.
      Depends upon the criterion, doesn't it?

      If the criterion is as per usual, an available recording of Bruckner Symphony 3, then it should be included in the list of available recordings set out in the first post. It’s what normally happens with these BaL threads.

      And as I said, you shouldn’t take him too seriously. After all, it’s the music that matters and it’s a pretty damn fine performance. It’s available on CD or download. I got my recording from Qobuz as a 16 Bit CD quality download. It’s also available to stream on a few places like Spotify and Apple Music.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12936

        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        Depends upon the criterion, doesn't it?

        If the criterion is as per usual, an available recording of Bruckner Symphony 3, then it should be included in the list of available recordings set out in the first post. It’s what normally happens with these BaL threads.
        ... o, I often indicate other recordings that are available, and often it happens that they are not picked up in Alpie's list. I wdn't get too excited about it.

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        • Beef Oven!
          Ex-member
          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... o, I often indicate other recordings that are available, and often it happens that they are not picked up in Alpie's list. I wdn't get too excited about it.
          O yes, he’s only human and he does his best. I’m not excited, more confused.

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          • Alison
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6468

            No one reading the thread could possibly be unaware of the availability of your recording, Beefo!

            I'd be tempted to drop it.

            Must say the I Tunes extracts I heard were quite impressive.

            I still think the actual BAL on Saturday is the most eagerly awaited part of this Christmas.

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              No one reading the thread could possibly be unaware of the availability of your recording, Beefo!
              My work is done here!

              I'd be tempted to drop it.
              I promise you, Ive been tempted!

              Must say the I Tunes extracts I heard were quite impressive.
              indeed!

              I still think the actual BAL on Saturday is the most eagerly awaited part of this Christmas.
              Yes, I’m really looking forward to it. But I seriously think that BaLs, or at least some of them, should be 2 hours.

              Currently listening to Celibidache’s MPO EMI.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                Is it on Spotify?
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  Is it on Spotify?
                  Yes, it is on Spotify and as Alison says, Apple Music/iTunes too.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Yes, it is on Spotify and as Alison says, Apple Music/iTunes too.
                    Ah right, hmmm... looks like another peruse!
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • Alison
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6468

                      It really is a shame the work is so 'textually vexatious' but for which it would be surely regarded as one of Bruckner's most magnificent symphonies.

                      There always seems to be something holding us back from full enjoyment.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        It really is a shame the work is so 'textually vexatious' but for which it would be surely regarded as one of Bruckner's most magnificent symphonies.
                        There always seems to be something holding us back from full enjoyment.
                        Nowt holding me back, Alison - quite happy to regard it as three of the best Symphonies of the Nineteenth Century.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11752

                          EA is Jochum's DG recording with the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra nla ?

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Seems to still be available in the boxed set of Bruckner symphonies:

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              Seems to still be available in the boxed set of Bruckner symphonies:

                              The box set I have! :) Plus EG's Bruckner choral box.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • ahinton
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16123

                                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                                Nowt holding me back, Alison - quite happy to regard it as three of the best Symphonies of the Nineteenth Century.
                                Out of curiosity (nosiness?), which are the other two?! I don't think that I'd go quite that far, given certain symphonies of Beethoven, Brahms 1 & 4, Mahler 2, Tchaikovsky 4, 6 and Manfred, Liszt's A Faust Symphony and quite a few others, not least Bruckner's own later ones, but it was certainly by far his finest symphony at the time of its "completion"(?!).

                                As to inclusion of the Marthé, as long as it's clearly described as a kind of recomposition by him rather than a version like all the others and it's left to stand or fall on its own merits or otherwise, I see no obvious reason not to do this but then if it were the second symphony would one feel it incumbent upon the survey's presenter to include Anthony Payne's chamber arrangement? - and if Mahler 9, should the chamber arrangement of that likewise be included?...

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