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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20575

    BaL 24.12.16/10.12.22 - Mozart: Piano Concerto no. 21 in C, K467

    0930
    Building a Library: David Owen Norris sifts through some of the available recordings of Mozart's Piano Concerto No 21 in C major, K467

    Available recordings:-

    Géza Anda, Camerata Academica of the Salzburg Mozarteum
    Géza Anda, Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan
    Géza Anda, Wiener Symphoniker
    Piotr Anderszewski, Sinfonia Varsovia
    Martha Argerich, Cologne Radio Symphony Orchestra, Peter Maag
    Stefan Askenase, Berlin Philharmonic, Karl Bohm
    Vladimir Ashkenazy, NHK Symphony Orchestra
    Vladimir Ashkenazy, Philharmonia Orchestra
    Paul Badura-Skoda, Orchestre Régional de Cannes PACA, Wolfgang Dörner
    Daniel Barenboim, Berliner Philharmoniker (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Daniel Barenboim, English Chamber Orchestra
    Malcom Bilson, The English Baroque Soloists, John Eliot Gardiner (BaL recommendation 2016)
    Jonathan Biss, Orpheus Chamber Orchestra (download)
    Christina Bjorkoe, Czech Chamber Philharmonic Orchestra, Douglas Bostock (download)
    Ronald Brautigam, Die Kolner Akadamie, Michael Alexander Willens
    Alfred Brendel, Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Neville Marriner
    Rudolf Buchbinder, Staatskapelle Dresden
    Rudolf Buchbinder, Staatskapelle Dresden (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Rudolf Buchbinder, Vienna Symphony Orchestra
    Robert Casadesus, Orchestre National de l'ORF, Jean Martinon (download)
    Robert Casadesus. National Orchestra, Lovro von Matacic
    Robert Casadesus, New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Charles Munch
    Robert Casadesus, Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell
    Patrick Cohen, Ensemble Baroque de Limoges, Christophe Coin
    Clifford Curzon, Symphonie-Orchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Rafael Kubelik
    Clifford Curzon, Orchestre de Chambre de Lausanne, Armin Jordan (download)
    Danae Dorken, Royal Northern Sinfonia, Lars Vogt
    Karl Engel Mozarteum Orchestra Salzburg, Leopold Hager
    Tamás Érdi, Budapest Chamber Symphony, Tamás Vásáry
    Christoph Eschenbach, London Philharmonic Orchestra (download)
    Sergio Fiorentino, London Mozart Players
    Annie Fischer, Philharmonia Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult
    Annie Fischer, Budapest Symphony Orchestra, Ervin Lukacs
    Mitsuko Uchida, English Chamber Orchestra, Jeffrey Tate
    Annie Fischer, Philharmonia Orchestra, Wolfgang Sawallisch
    Vilmos Fischer, Vienna Mozart Ensemble, Herbert Kraus (download)
    Walter Gieseking, Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra, Guido Cantelli
    Emil Gilels Moscow Chamber Orchestra, Rudolf Barshai
    Emil Gilels, Gewandhaus Orchestra, Franz Konwitschny
    Alon Goldstein, Rachel Calin, Fine Arts Quartet (arr. Ignaz Lachner)
    Friedrich Gulda, Wiener Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado
    Christian Ihle Hadland, Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra, Arvid Engegård
    Ingrid Haebler, London Symphony Orchestra, Witold Rowicki (download)
    Derek Han, Philharmonia Orchestra, Paul Freeman
    Myra Hess, University of Illinois Sinfonietta, John M Kuypers
    Stephen Hough, Hallé Orchestra, Bryden Thomson
    Helen Huang, New York Philharmonic, Kurt Masur
    Eugene Istomin, Seattle Symphony Orchestra, Gerard Schwarz
    Ingrid Jacoby, Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Sir Neville Marriner
    Jeno Jando, Concentus Hungaricus, Andras Ligeti
    Keith Jarrett, Stuttgart Chamber Orchestra, Dennis Russell Davies
    Cyprien Katsaris, Salzburg Chamber Philharmonic, Yoon Kuk Lee
    Wilhelm Kempff, Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Bernhard Klee
    Matthias Kirschnereit, Bamberger Symphoniker, Bayerische Staatsphilharmonie, Frank Beermann
    Stephen Kovacevich, London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis
    Lili Kraus, Vienna Festival Orchestra, Stephen Simon
    Peter Lang, Capella Istropolitana, Christoph Eberle (download)
    Dinu Lipatti, Lucerne Festival Orchestra, Herbert von Karajan
    Jan Lisiecki, Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Christian Zacharias
    Radu Lupu, English Chamber Orchestra, Uri Segal
    Linda Nicholson, Cappella Coloniensis, Nicholas Kraemer (download)
    John O'Conor, Scottish Chamber Orchestra, Charles Mackerras
    Ronan O'Hora, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Jonathan Carney
    James Parker, CBC Radio Orchestra, Mario Bernardi (download)
    Murray Perahia, English Chamber Orchestra
    Maria João Pires, Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Claudio Abbado
    Maria-João Pires, Gulbenkian Foundation Orchestra, Lisbon, Theodor Guschlbauer
    Maria João Pires, Wiener Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado
    Maurizio Pollini, Wiener Philharmoniker
    Jean-Bernard Pommier, Sinfonia Varsovia (download)
    Vassily Primakov, Odense Symphony Orchestra, Simon Gaudenz
    Arthur Rubinstein, RCA Victor Symphony Orchestra, Alfred Wallenstein
    Fazil Say, Zürcher Kammerorchester, Howard Griffiths
    Staffan Scheja, Stockholm Sinfonietta, Jan-Olav Wedin
    András Schiff, Camerata Academica Salzburg, Sandor Végh
    Annerose Schmidt, Dresden Philharmonic Orchestra, Kurt Masur (download)
    Annerose Schmidt, Dresden Staatskapelle, Otmar Suitner (download)
    Artur Schnabel, London Symphony Orchestra, Malcolm Sargent
    Arthur Schoonderwoerd, Cristofori
    Rudolf Serkin, London Symphony Orchestra, Claudio Abbado
    Rudolf Serkin, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Alexander Schneider
    Howard Shelley, London Mozart Players
    Howard Shelley, City of London Sinfonia
    Viviana Sofronitsky, Musica Antiqua Collegium Varsoviense, Tadeusz Karolak
    Christoph Soldan, Silesian Chamber Orchestra, Pawel Przytocki (download)
    Ignat Solzhenitsyn, Chamber Orchestra of Philadelphia (download)
    Svetlana Stanceva, Mozart Festival Orchestra, Alberto Lizzio (download)
    Hai-Kyung Suh, Academy of St. Martin in the Fields, Sir Neville Marriner
    Maria Tipo, Vienna Symphony Orchestra, Jonel Perlea
    Fou Ts'ong, Sinfonia Varsovia
    Mitsuko Uchida, The Cleveland Orchestra
    Mitsuko Uchida, English Chamber Orchestra, Jeffrey Tate
    Dinorah Varsi (BaL recommendation 2022)
    Tamas Vasary, Philharmonia Orchestra (download)
    Ilana Vered, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Lawrence Foster (CD & Vinyl)
    Stefan Vladar, Salzburg Camerata
    Lars Vogt, Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra, Paavo Järvi
    Mikhail Voskresensky, Pavel Slobodkin Centre Moscow Chamber orchestra, Leonid Nikolaev
    Alexis Weissenberg, Wiener Symphoniker, Carlo Maria Giulini
    Klara Wurtz, Prima La Musica, Dirk Vermeulen
    Christian Zacharias, Orchestre de Chambre de Lausanne
    Christian Zacharias, Symphonie-Orchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, David Zinman
    Haiou Zhang, Heidelberger Sinfoniker, Thomas Fey
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 10-12-22, 11:41.
  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #2
    Looks like a couple of my favourites, Demus and Immerseel, have fallen out of current availability.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26575

      #3
      Just been revisiting Mozart piano concertos, principally No 23, but No 21 has figured too. I come back time and again to Christian Zacharias with the Lausanne Chamber Orchestra on MDG (expensive individual discs, but I invested in the box of all 9 of the discs he recorded for about £30 recently). He gets all sorts of things right, and the recordings are a delight. In No 21, he takes the middle movement in flowing 1-in-a-bar style - slower versions now seem self-indulgent to me.

      Even more fleet approach taken in the Christian Ihle Hadland / Oslo Philharmonic / Engegård recording on Simax - I find the orchestral accompaniment too 'big' and the slow movement too perfunctory, but the pianism is so infectious and the recording so good that I listen to it frequently, plus you get Britten's cadenzas in the other concerto recorded, K 482

      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • richardfinegold
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 7747

        #4
        Casadesus/Szell has long been my favorite, but the Istomin recording which is a high Res download, is a nice performance and sounds amazing

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        • richardfinegold
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 7747

          #5
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          Just been revisiting Mozart piano concertos, principally No 23, but No 21 has figured too. I come back time and again to Christian Zacharias with the Lausanne Chamber Orchestra on MDG (expensive individual discs, but I invested in the box of all 9 of the discs he recorded for about £30 recently). He gets all sorts of things right, and the recordings are a delight. In No 21, he takes the middle movement in flowing 1-in-a-bar style - slower versions now seem self-indulgent to me.

          Even more fleet approach taken in the Christian Ihle Hadland / Oslo Philharmonic / Engegård recording on Simax - I find the orchestral accompaniment too 'big' and the slow movement too perfunctory, but the pianism is so infectious and the recording so good that I listen to it frequently, plus you get Britten's cadenzas in the other concerto recorded, K 482

          Zachariah set is excellent, and is another sonic blockbuster

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          • Alison
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6474

            #6
            I can recall the Ashkenazy/Philharmonia version winning when Roger Nichols did a BAL many years ago.

            Expect DON to dwell on the detail at the expense of the overview.

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #7
              Ah well! They could have something more seasonal?!?!?
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • Alison
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 6474

                #8
                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                Ah well! They could have something more seasonal?!?!?
                No, the great works are for all seasons BBM!!

                Just about my favourite WAM piano concerto.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #9
                  Christmas every day with Mozart!
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • CallMePaul
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 804

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Alison View Post
                    Expect DON to dwell on the detail at the expense of the overview.
                    On past form he is likely to give short shrift to fortepiano performances too. I bought the Barenboim/ Berlin box set some years ago at a knock-down price but rarely listen to any of these as my taste in Mozart performances has changed over time.

                    Also, why do the producers of this programme think that performers make good critics? DON is not too bad but I have heard some awful ones (no names but a female cellist stands out in particular for slagging off almost all her colleagues' performances of the Walton concerto a few years back). I am interested in a fortepiano performance but there appear to be few to choose from. Naybe BIS will box the Brautigan performances of all the concerti or do I wait for Bezuidenhout to reach this ion his ongoing cycle?

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                    • Alison
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6474

                      #11
                      To be fair DON is interesting but not really a reliable library builder.

                      Come back Stephen Plaistow!

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11759

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        To be fair DON is interesting but not really a reliable library builder.

                        Come back Stephen Plaistow!
                        Agree entirely he often gives an illuminating talk and the chooses a bizarre winner .

                        I had no idea Argerich had ever recorded this I thought 18,20 and 25 were the only Mozart solo concertos she played - I see it is a 1960 live recording on Doremi

                        Annie Fischer recorded 21 and 22 with Sawallisch and 20 and 23 with Boult - I do not think there is a duplicate with him of 21 ?

                        I would always want Perahia, Lupu, Annie F , Lipatti and Pires.
                        Last edited by Barbirollians; 14-12-16, 23:33.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                          I am interested in a fortepiano performance but there appear to be few to choose from. Naybe BIS will box the Brautigan performances of all the concerti or do I wait for Bezuidenhout to reach this ion his ongoing cycle?
                          The Sofronitsky survey is well worth considering, played on one of hubby's Walter copies.

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                          • Richard Barrett
                            Guest
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 6259

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                            I am interested in a fortepiano performance but there appear to be few to choose from.
                            I have two sets, Immerseel which is a little soft-focus maybe, and Bilson+Gardiner which is quite the opposite. I'm not sure which I prefer. I certainly prefer both to anything involving "modern" pianos.

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                            • gurnemanz
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7414

                              #15
                              My LP purchase about 50 years ago was Andor Foldes on DG cheapo label Heliodor - long defunct but very good as far as I recall. First Cd was Howard Shelley with City of London Sinfonia - still a favourite version.

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