BaL 24.12.16/10.12.22 - Mozart: Piano Concerto no. 21 in C, K467

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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
    • 13058

    #91
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    ... I don't think he referred to Schoonderwoerd at all - nor yet Viviana Sofronitsky.

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    • verismissimo
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      • Nov 2010
      • 2957

      #92
      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      .

      ... nor yet Viviana Sofronitsky.
      ... whose set is very much filled with musical pleasures.

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #93
        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
        I haven't had time to catch this but - was there any mention of my current favourites, Schoonderwoerd or Brautigam?
        Brautigam, yes, and as ISTR he was runner-up in the fortepiano options.

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 13058

          #94
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

          Particularly liked the Gilels - think I'll have to find a copy.
          ... embarrassing confession time - - I thought I was bein' so clever puttin' in a swift order for a Gilels, on offer cheaply -



          Only realizing later that DON had been referring to Gilels with Kondrashin / USSR SSO and not with Konwitschny / Leipzig Gewandhaus.

          Sadly I think not enuff pennies in the piggy bank for the Kondrashin at the moment -



          Still, I'm sure the Konwitschny will be interesting ...

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20578

            #95
            It's rather sad that Ingrid Haebler's beautiful recording is now deemed unworthy of being available.

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            • vinteuil
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              • Nov 2010
              • 13058

              #96
              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              It's rather sad that Ingrid Haebler's beautiful recording is now deemed unworthy of being available.
              ... well, it is available - at a price...



              [ I got it for quite a lot less... ]

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20578

                #97
                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ... well, it is available - at a price...



                [ I got it for quite a lot less... ]
                For another £42, you can buy the composer's complete works plus extras.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #98
                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  ... well, it is available - at a price...
                  ... and, at another price:

                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #99
                    ... and, if you're quick, and don't mind second-hand:




                    It's probably as well to wait until the recording is re-reissued, which it surely must be before too long.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Barbirollians
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11874

                      A very odd BAL in which DON did not have time to play extracts from some classic versions - Lipatti , Kovacevich , Anda but had time for those he dismissed out of hand like Barenboim's turgid slow movement and a long middle of the road extract from Buchbinder .

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                      • visualnickmos
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3617

                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... embarrassing confession time - - I thought I was bein' so clever puttin' in a swift order for a Gilels, on offer cheaply -



                        Only realizing later that DON had been referring to Gilels with Kondrashin / USSR SSO and not with Konwitschny / Leipzig Gewandhaus.

                        Sadly I think not enuff pennies in the piggy bank for the Kondrashin at the moment -



                        Still, I'm sure the Konwitschny will be interesting ...
                        Serendipity is often a wonderful thing..... Let us know....

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11874

                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                          A very odd BAL in which DON did not have time to play extracts from some classic versions - Lipatti , Kovacevich , Anda but had time for those he dismissed out of hand like Barenboim's turgid slow movement and a long middle of the road extract from Buchbinder .
                          Listening to the Lipatti/Karajan today just makes me crosser about this BAL . I was reminded of Lipatti's terrific cadenzas for this work as well as playing so far beyond that of the winner in poetry and virtuosity that its omission beggars belief .

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                          • rauschwerk
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1487

                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            Listening to the Lipatti/Karajan today just makes me crosser about this BAL . I was reminded of Lipatti's terrific cadenzas for this work as well as playing so far beyond that of the winner in poetry and virtuosity that its omission beggars belief .
                            Ah well, it seems some of us have had enough of experts...

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                            • Petrushka
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12387

                              So many of the post BaL comments above, broadly similar to those we get after most Saturday mornings, confirm my feeling that Building a Library is past its sell by date. That, and the suspicion that reviewers seem to be under pressure to ensure a HIPP 'winner' in this kind of repertoire, make me think a completely different format is needed, perhaps a mix of BaL and Interpretations on Record, taken out of Record Review and given a R3 programme of its own.
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26601

                                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                                Building a Library is past its sell by date.
                                Well I think it's rather the other way round... The programme is true to its remit, more or less. Haven't the majority of 'regulars' here just outgrown it? Exactly as ferney observed up-thread:

                                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                                I don't think that we Forumistas (with our libraries of thousands of CDs) are necessarily the target audience for the discs chosen as the "one-if-you-only-have-one" for the Library; but the best reviews are those that do exactly what you say here, Alpie - bring the attention of people like (some of!) us to recordings of which we might otherwise be unaware.
                                And while I agree that

                                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                                ...a completely different format is needed, perhaps a mix of BaL and Interpretations on Record, taken out of Record Review and given a R3 programme of its own.
                                .... yes, an additional programme along those lines is needed by R3 Forum 'regulars' - but there's still a place for BAL, for those at a more... formative stage of their music library-building.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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