BaL 12.11.16 - Vaughan Williams: A London Symphony

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  • visualnickmos
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3617

    #46
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Not at all. I was requested to merge the two threads, so all comments on the Summer BaL thread are now moved to this one.
    Thanks All is now clear now....
    and a great listing (as always)
    RVW's "London" is a remarkable work - I have a few recordings, but I think Boult's (EMI stereo) really does it for me - but the others are equally spellbinding in different ways.... a good BaL in prospect, I hope.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20582

      #47
      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      How about the Yates entry. That still needs editing.
      Done.

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #48
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Done.
        Thanks. The performance may not be all that one might have hoped for but it's the only modern recording of the 1920 revision, as far as I am aware. However, I would just point out that Leon McCawley and John Lenehan do not participate in the performance of the London Symphony, only in the 2 piano version of the Piano concerto.
        Last edited by Bryn; 04-11-16, 21:08. Reason: Update

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20582

          #49
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          However, I would just point out that Leon McCawley and John Lenehan do not participate in the performance of the London Symphony, only in the 2 piano version of the Piano concerto.
          Now sorted.

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          • EdgeleyRob
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12180

            #50
            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
            A lovely symphony that I was only just listening to last night, containing one of the most beautiful slow movements in the symphonic repertoire. I'd love to know what instrument(s) play(s) the haunting motif that recurs in it. It's reappearance and elegiac tone I find reminiscent of the 'Aino' trombone motif in Sibelius's 7th.

            I'd probably plump for Haitink/LPO though was listening to the Manze last night; I remain undecided about it and whether he rather overeggs the motif in the slow movement.
            Manze is my current favourite,the Lento not OTT to my ears Throppers.
            Wouldn't be surprised it won.
            All the makings of another super RLPO cycle.
            Bakels on Naxos doesn't get the credit it deserves IMVHO

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            • Alison
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              • Nov 2010
              • 6493

              #51
              Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
              Manze is my current favourite,the Lento not OTT to my ears Throppers.
              Wouldn't be surprised it won.
              All the makings of another super RLPO cycle.
              Bakels on Naxos doesn't get the credit it deserves IMVHO
              I am with Edge here. Probably the best and most often played disc I've acquired this year. Can't wait for the next Manze release.

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              • richardfinegold
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                • Sep 2012
                • 7834

                #52
                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                I am with Edge here. Probably the best and most often played disc I've acquired this year. Can't wait for the next Manze release.
                Hopefully you can be patient, because according to the promo blurb in Arkiv, Onyx plans to release the discs at the rate of one per year, to finish in 2019

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                • Alison
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6493

                  #53
                  Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                  Hopefully you can be patient, because according to the promo blurb in Arkiv, Onyx plans to release the discs at the rate of one per year, to finish in 2019
                  Well in a way I am happy with that especially if the quality level remains high. I did read which symphonies were next but have since forgotten.

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                  • EdgeleyRob
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12180

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Alison View Post
                    Well in a way I am happy with that especially if the quality level remains high. I did read which symphonies were next but have since forgotten.
                    3 & 4,due to be released March 2017 chuck.
                    Which means IIRC this cycle is mirroring the previous RLPO/Handley couplings

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                    • visualnickmos
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3617

                      #55
                      So many marvellous recordings - all with vastly different approaches - but Boult - he's yer man. However, I find that I enjoy every recording I hear of this wonderful oeuvre, which is no bad thing.

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                      • Alison
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6493

                        #56
                        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                        3 & 4,due to be released March 2017 chuck.
                        Which means IIRC this cycle is mirroring the previous RLPO/Handley couplings
                        Ooh, I think 3 and 4 make a magnificent pairing. Roll on the Spring!

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #57
                          Let's see... I have Boult's re-mastered 1951, Handley, Andrew Davies, Andre Previn. Be a very interesting BaL, methinks.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #58
                            My favourite remains the Nixa Barbirolli which today can be found, like the new Manze, coupled with the 8th, Barbirolli's 10" Nixa having been my introduction to that work too.

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                            • Stanley Stewart
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1071

                              #59
                              My last 'live' performance of the London Symphony was at the York Barbican, circa 1991; Halle Orch/Yehudi Menuhin.

                              However, at this time of the year, I revisit an off-air video, now on DVD, of Ken Russell's,
                              RVW - A Symphonic Portrait - South Bank Show, in which, accompanied by a feisty Ursula VW, they
                              trace the background to each symphony, often with archive footage. Affectionate and enllightening.

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                              • Tony Halstead
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1717

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                                A lovely symphony that I was only just listening to last night, containing one of the most beautiful slow movements in the symphonic repertoire. I'd love to know what instrument(s) play(s) the haunting motif that recurs in it. It's reappearance and elegiac tone I find reminiscent of the 'Aino' trombone motif in Sibelius's 7th.

                                I'd probably plump for Haitink/LPO though was listening to the Manze last night; I remain undecided about it and whether he rather overeggs the motif in the slow movement.
                                If you mean the tune in C major about 2'30" in ( 2nd mvt) it's played by the 1st trumpet, quite low in its register, doubled by 1st flute, also low down, with the 1st horn softly 'shadowing' the tune's 3rd- 4th notes and 8th-9th notes,
                                a rising interval of a 4th.
                                During the Previn/ LSO recording session, when I was playing that horn part, I was quite worried about the potential balance problem, what with the trumpet and flute being so low and relatively 'unresonant' compared to the horn which is pitched in its most 'ringing' register... I had the feeling at the time that I was 'sucking' rather than blowing!

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