BaL 24.09.16 - Chopin: Piano Concerto no. 1 in E minor

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
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    I couldn't disagree more - to my ears there is nothing the slightest manic about her playing in the Dutoit recording .

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26453

      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      I couldn't disagree more - to my ears there is nothing the slightest manic about her playing in the Dutoit recording .
      I was thinking more of a lot of the later (Lugano) recordings; but nonetheless (I've listened to it again) in the Dutoit recording there's the familiar Argerich tendency to tug and emphasise almost everything, of which I've become tired. Her style now sounds mannered to me. Yes some stunning fingerwork, delicacy etc. - but I personally now want a little more poise, a little more of the music being allowed to speak for itself.
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • BBMmk2
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        • Nov 2010
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        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        I was thinking more of a lot of the later (Lugano) recordings; but nonetheless (I've listened to it again) in the Dutoit recording there's the familiar Argerich tendency to tug and emphasise almost everything, of which I've become tired. Her style now sounds mannered to me. Yes some stunning fingerwork, delicacy etc. - but I personally now want a little more poise, a little more of the music being allowed to speak for itself.
        Same here to all the aforementioned. I like the recommended recorded a lot. As Cali said, I am wanting a recording that has more poise, and allowing the music to speak for itself.
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
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          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          Same here to all the aforementioned. I like the recommended recorded a lot. As Cali said, I am wanting a recording that has more poise, and allowing the music to speak for itself.
          I still do not hear any of that- lovely , poetic imaginative and vital playing not a trace of mannerism or self-indulgence to my ears but then again to each their own .

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          • Zucchini
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            • Nov 2010
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            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            - but I personally now want a little more poise, a little more of the music being allowed to speak for itself.
            You need Pires for that - so, so elegant

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            • BBMmk2
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              I still do not hear any of that- lovely , poetic imaginative and vital playing not a trace of mannerism or self-indulgence to my ears but then again to each their own .
              Yes, with her ealier one that SM-P recommended with Dutoit. Not the later one that is listed from Lugano.
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
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                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                Yes, with her ealier one that SM-P recommended with Dutoit. Not the later one that is listed from Lugano.
                In the blue Lugano box from 2010 ? I think that is fabulous . As Gramophone said rarely has the finale been played with such coruscating and riotous brilliance .

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                • BBMmk2
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  In the blue Lugano box from 2010 ? I think that is fabulous . As Gramophone said rarely has the finale been played with such coruscating and riotous brilliance .
                  Yes, fair enough, Barbs.
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26453

                    Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                    You need Pires for that - so, so elegant
                    Yep - one of my favourites.
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Barbirollians
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11522

                      The Pires is very beautifully played but rather slow as SMP pointed out.

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                      • BBMmk2
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        The Pires is very beautifully played but rather slow as SMP pointed out.
                        I better listen to those two Argerich recordings again!
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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