BaL 25.06.16 - Victoria: Masses

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

They've had a BaL for all of Bruckner's symphonies before.

- recently?

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?1351-BaL-26-02-11-Bruckner-Symphonies

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...ner-Symphonies

- seems that that wasn't a BaL as we know it: more of a chat about recent releases of complete sets. (Can't remember what was happening at the end of Feb 2011 that led me to miss it.)

[Pulcinella]

Three of the versions of the requiem appear at the top of the Presto site with a Featured May 2011 comment.
Not sure what that means, i.e., what BaL they 'featured' in.

I find the Radio 3 site impossible to navigate (and keep telling them when they ask me to take a survey!).
Could some kind host possibly provide a link on our home page to the Building a Library archive?
Thanks in anticipation!

[LeMartinPecheur]

If she recommends a version of all EA's listed masses it might just get expensive for me Apart from the requiem I can field only Hill's Vidi speciosam and an ancient New College LP of O quam gloriosum

Hunting the LP shelves it was very nice to drag out the old Argo Tenebrae Responses (George Malcolm). Now that's a disc with atmosphere

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

There are several recordings of collections, I suspect is the way this BaL will go.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Now on. Don't miss it!

[DracoM]

I'm afraid it is already abundantly clear that no BAL style survey can possibly be of much use in surveying something as huge and diverse in performance style and voice mix as this.

Poor Ms Knighton is bent on a completely impossible task.

[BBMmk2]

Maybe right, DracoM, but she's doing a fine job.

[DracoM]

But totally predictably, it's wading in the shallows. It's hopeless - mixed voices, some with accompaniment, some with boys top line, some men top line, some distant, some chamber perfs............I mean, how the heck do you 'compare'?
Cite, yes, list, yes, purr over, yes............ but COMPARE?

[ardcarp]

An excellent survey of the field by Tess. She managed to play quite a lot, and her words matched the music (apart from cutting short that 'Organ mass' extract from Musica Ficta.) And she ended up leaving us with the choice between the full Catholic monty (Westminster cathedral...and one CD) and the more refined, yet still atmospheric mixed voice version (many Masses and CDs) from Ensemble Plus Ultra.

Interesting that she used the fashionable NON-Italianate Latin pronunciation though the choirs didn't! Not sure about her 'lie-tantur'. Took me back to schooldays and the conflict between choir- and classics masters.

[DracoM]

Or AGGGGnus Dei................

Some lovely sounds, but I repeat, how do you 'compare'?
My prob is that I love Victoria and have a lot of his music and sung a lot of it, so maybe I'm far too close to it all.

[jean]

Interesting that she used the fashionable NON-Italianate Latin pronunciation though the choirs didn't!

I'm not sure what you mean by fashionable - she didn't use any one pronunciation consistently. And mis-stressed Surge Propera.

And she thought O Quam Gloriosum was for All Souls, rather than All Saints. Shockingly presumptive.

An interesting dash through available versions, and worth knowing there's a set of the lot. And some theorising about instrumental accompaniment.

No sign of ther 6-part Requiem, though.

[ardcarp]

Draco, I sympathise. But the 'problem' of comparing like with not-like is surely inherent in any BAL. I am glad Tess gave due weight and very warm appreciation to CCCOs CD. Many will certainly be attracted by this?

[ardcarp]

Jean, she did give reasons for not including The Requiem. She's already surveyed it!

[jean]

I missed her saying that - but I didn't really expect it!