BaL 11.06.16 - JS Bach: Cantata BWV198 'Laß, Fürstin, laß noch einen Strahl'

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  • teamsaint
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    • Nov 2010
    • 25225

    #31
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    - specifically the recordings of late Stravinsky works using the same sessions chamber choirs and the Gregg Smith singers! (Used in Craft's pioneering Webern recordings, too - and often sounding as if they'd just come from a soundtrack recording at the Disney studios.)

    I see that the Bach was also once released as a coupling to Craft's recording of the Monteverdi "Vespers" - anyone ever heard this?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bach-Cantat.../dp/B000024QV0
    the vespers? this looks like it?

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #32
      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
      the vespers? this looks like it?
      - you'd think I'd know by now to check youTube first! Good call, ts - I shall set time aside (I'll have to put petrol in the Tardis) to listen to this.
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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25225

        #33
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        - you'd think I'd know by now to check youTube first! Good call, ts - I shall set time aside (I'll have to put petrol in the Tardis) to listen to this.
        My pleasure,Ferney
        Its the only place I could find it, although there are vinyl sets for sale at cheap prices on yankee amazon. ( temptedsmileything)

        i'm just finding time for the Herreweghe from the HM Sacred Mvsic box.

        CV Gent can come and sing round my house any time.

        Be interested in your thoughts on the Craft, to save time travel.
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        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #34
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          Be interested in your thoughts on the Craft (Monteverdi Vespers), to save time travel.
          Well - whilst I won't be getting rid of my Herreweghe - I enjoyed it very much. It was made in the same year (1967) as the more famous Michel Corbez recording, so the performers all rely on the score and Craft's insights into it; and sometimes it does seem as if they've only had a couple of rehearsals before the tape started, and there's a muddiness to the sound (on that youTube transfer at any - ahem - rate) with the trumpets well forward of the choir. But for all the very 20th Century singing and timbres, the pace is good and vigorous and I listened enchanted and entertained all the way through.

          I see, too, that Jurgens also recorded the "Vespers" in 1975. I sha'n't be in any hurry to hear that - I found his recommended recording of the Bach this morning too much a depiction of what grief is supposed to be like, rather than the variety of conflicting feelings that Bach presents in this score. Glad I heard it - not for repeated listenings for me.
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          • Nick Armstrong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 26572

            #35
            Just noticed that JF-W reviewed the Suzuki performance in Gramophone as recently as the May issue. His two 'comparative' versions were the BAL 'winner' and the Pierlot, so the podium positions were pretty clear prior to transmission...

            No wonder the prose of his radio survey were so neatly turned - he'd obviously had a double opportunity to hone his views; indeed, the 'galant accentuations' and other felicitous phrases appear in both reviews, unsurprisingly
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #36
              The Jurgen Jurgens version, doesn't seem to be all that readily available
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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #37
                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                The Jurgen Jurgens version, doesn't seem to be all that readily available
                27 new copies available from the river people, Bbm:

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20572

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  The Jurgen Jurgens version, doesn't seem to be all that readily available
                  Astute forumites may have noticed that the winning version wasn't on the original list.

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