Strangely (perhaps?) this was the last Tchaikovsky symphony that I 'got'. All the others - apart from 2, which I still am not sure if I like or not (basic, but true) - were fine and relatively plain-sailing, but for years the Pathetique eluded me, or probably to be more precise, I eluded it. Then I came to hear Silvestri's recording - still a few years ago, and it clicked, and from that moment all became clear. Until hearing said recording, I'd listened to the symphony many times, various recordings, but I felt as if I was in an aural fog, - as I say - until Silvestri came along..... baffled? I was, and still am...
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For me it was the opposite, I first heard a dismal performance on World Records (can't remember who it was) and that put me off the piece for years, Toscanini's NBC performance was one of the first to convince me. Unlike some others, I do like Mravinsky's red blooded approach and also Pletnev's. Seems I also have performances by Monteux, Kord, Van Lindenberg (!?!) and Andrew Davis but I really can't remember any of them!Originally posted by pastoralguy View PostComment
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Recent BaL's have been of scant interest then this impossible task comes along! My introduction to the work (on disc at any rate) was BPO/Karajan in a rather foggy sounding 1974 EMI recording, now on Warner, purchased on July 18 1974. This was followed pretty swiftly by the Leningrad PO/Mravinsky on DG.
Like EA, I've got many versions on CD, including every one of Karajan's, but none of them sweep the board. No-one has mentioned the 1982 live Leningrad PO/Mravinsky recording on Erato then Elatus but this one comes closer to my ideal than any other. The howl of animal pain in the central climax of the first movement has to be heard to be believed and that clinches it for me.
My more general default versions are either BPO/Karajan (1977) or Philharmonia/Ashkenazy. I can't say I've noticed the 'bassoon concerto' aspect of the latter recording, though. Concerning the brass fluff in the finale of the Ashkenazy can Alpie provide, at the risk of ruining the recording for ever, a timed reference? Amazed if something obvious got past the editing process especially if it's enough to rule this version out of court.
I'm not as averse to Bernstein's hour long slow motion account with the NYPO on DG as some. It's one to be heard every now and then but it will never be in the running as a BaL contender."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard HaitinkComment
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Yes, Ashkenazy is very good in this, his Fourth is even better. Another fine Philharmonia version is Sinopoli's - with a slightly slower third movement (Furwangler-style…). The coupled Romeo and Juliet is my favourite for that work.Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
I do find the mid-60s Karajan on DG remarkably enjoyable,beautifully played and recorded, and sounding very fresh.Comment
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I have a few of the recordings mentions, Gergiev - Kirov, for instance, there are others but not sure!Don’t cry for me
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I have
Yannick Nezet-Seguin Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra DG
Karajan BPO Galleria DG
Karajan VPO DG
Celibidache MPO EMI
Sinopoli Dresden StaatskapelleDG
Jansons Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra Chandos
Wit Polish National Radio Naxos
Karajan Philharmonia EMI
Karajan BPO EMILast edited by Beef Oven!; 28-05-16, 10:00.Comment
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The live Fricsay - in my wholly unhumble view, unsurpassed (and it's coupled to a terrific Bartok Third Piano Concerto, minus a few bars at the beginning ...):
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Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
Seconded. I used to have the Fricsay/Tchai 6 on LP and thank you, HD, for the lead on the CD availability, including the bonus of the Bartok PC! Now ordered and delivery due in a few days time.Comment
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Here it is https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tchaikovsky...kovsky+kletzkiOriginally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
But snap it up ( it is indeed fantastic and coupled with a thrilling mono account of the Violin Concerto with Oistrakh) , according to its disappearance from the lists on Presto Classical this appears to have been deleted .
I am slightly concerned about the reviewer . I did not think that her recommended Swan Lake was anywhere near as good as the Previn.Comment
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That live Bartok 3 with Annie Fischer has now reappeared on Praga - I wonder if they have found those missing bars ?Originally posted by HighlandDougie View PostComment
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The bars are missing from the Tchaikovsky, aren't they?Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostComment
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Are they ?-no idea I thought the reference was to the Bartok .Comment
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Having worked my way through all these CDs in the last 72 hours, I would say that Yannick Nezet-Seguin Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra on DG gets my vote. Sinopoli not far behind and I enjoyed the HvK VPO much more than I used to. I do hope I’m out of kilter with Marina Frolova-Walker on Saturday - far more interesting programme, that way.Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
Edit: I’ve just looked at the list Alpie produced in post #1. OMG!!! That’s crazy!!Comment
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Wow That's an intense exposure. You should relax with a few hours of Led ZeppelinOriginally posted by Beef Oven! View PostComment
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