BaL 20.02.16 - Shostakovich: Symphony no. 9

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #31
    Have this set already, so thank goodness! :)
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #32
      Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
      A schoolboy pash?
      :) Haha Flossy!
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • makropulos
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1669

        #33
        Slightly off topic (not a commercial recording) but about this symphony: it was very interesting talking to Charles Mackerras about this work (which he loved). In 1962 at the Edinburgh Festival, he conducted it with the Polish Radio SO in the presence of Shostakovich, who came to rehearsals and gave him a lot of advice about tempo. In 2006, CM conducted the piece with the Berlin Philharmonic in two wonderful performances which were recorded by the orchestra for archival purposes.

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        • visualnickmos
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3609

          #34
          Originally posted by makropulos View Post
          .....In 2006, CM conducted the piece with the Berlin Philharmonic in two wonderful performances which were recorded by the orchestra for archival purposes.
          Wouldn't that be a tremendous new release.....

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          • Stanfordian
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            • Dec 2010
            • 9309

            #35
            Originally posted by seabright View Post
            Why is the volume level of the first extract so low compared with D Nice's voice? It's barely audible. The same thing happens on Breakfast where music volume levels are often half what they should be.

            Hiya seabright,

            If the BBC with all its broadcasting experience can't get recording levels right then there is no hope for anyone one else!

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #36
              Have to catch up on this one but wasthere any mention of Jansons?
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10895

                #37
                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                Have to catch up on this one but wasthere any mention of Jansons?
                Yes there was!

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                • Nick Armstrong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26523

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  was there any mention of Jansons?
                  Very much so, Bbm - indeed, it was one of the two recordings other than the 'winner' that really caught my attention during this classic BAL - the Oslo/Janssons and the Rozhdestvensky/USSRMCSO discussed extensively above. Am just listening to the latter - have to say, it is to my ears let down by the thin and acidic Melodiya recording, though plainly a tremendous performance.

                  The several extracts played from the Janssons sounded so good, I'm going to investigate further.

                  But of course (apart from Bernstein/VPO which didn't get a mention from Mr Nice) on the shelf already is the winner in the legendary Superdrug 20p-a-disc boxset

                  I found it interesting to have highlighted by the reviewer how Barshai's performance differs (largely by its fidelity to markings etc) from others available. One of the best of that set, as I already thought.
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Cockney Sparrow
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                    • Jan 2014
                    • 2283

                    #39
                    Looking at the timings on the website, it seems likely (here's hoping) that the winner, the Rozhdestvensky, will be played complete on Essential Classics on Monday. I'm loathe to part with undue cash (certainly more, now, than £1.50 for CD quality) for a soviet era sound..unless its a truly outstanding performance..
                    Correction - Sorry, wrong end of the stick, I should have checked. The winner was Barshai (thanks HDougie). So - I have the Barshai CD , great ! But I won't get to hear the Rozhdestvensky on Monday or on iPlayer
                    Last edited by Cockney Sparrow; 21-02-16, 14:08. Reason: Correction

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                    • HighlandDougie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3082

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
                      Looking at the timings on the website, it seems likely (here's hoping) that the winner, the Rozhdestvensky
                      Although the Rozhdestvensky was highly commended by DN, it was actually Barshai which was his recommended version. As to the Rozhdestvensky, I thought that it sounded rather good (DN commented on the big, slightly bathroom-like 1980's Melodiya sound) so have tracked down a copy of the BMG/Melodiya remastered version, which I hope will sound better than the Olympia issue which I discarded some time ago.

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #41
                        The Rozhdestvensky recording may also be found in 'CD quality' (shrill and frankly quite nasty) as part of a rather strange compilation, "Classical Treasures Composer Series: Dmitri Shostakovich Edition Vol. 3" on QOBUZ. Stay away from it.
                        Last edited by Bryn; 21-02-16, 14:41. Reason: Update

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26523

                          #42
                          Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                          As to the Rozhdestvensky, I thought that it sounded rather good
                          Yes - so did I, listening to the programme on the bedside radio.... and was then disappointed hearing it from the start on the big hifi
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • mahlerei
                            Full Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 357

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            The Rozhdestvensky recording may also be found in 'CD quality' (shrill and frankly quite nasty) as part of a rather strange compilation, "Classical Treasures Composer Series: Dmitri Shostakovich Edition Vol. 3" on QOBUZ. Stay away from it.
                            Flirted with that one, but will give it a miss now.

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              Very much so, Bbm - indeed, it was one of the two recordings other than the 'winner' that really caught my attention during this classic BAL - the Oslo/Janssons and the Rozhdestvensky/USSRMCSO discussed extensively above. Am just listening to the latter - have to say, it is to my ears let down by the thin and acidic Melodiya recording, though plainly a tremendous performance.

                              The several extracts played from the Janssons sounded so good, I'm going to investigate further.

                              But of course (apart from Bernstein/VPO which didn't get a mention from Mr Nice) on the shelf already is the winner in the legendary Superdrug 20p-a-disc boxset

                              I found it interesting to have highlighted by the reviewer how Barshai's performance differs (largely by its fidelity to markings etc) from others available. One of the best of that set, as I already thought.
                              As ever, thanks Cali! I feel better for that! Between Barshai and Jansons?
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26523

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                                As ever, thanks Cali! I feel better for that! Between Barshai and Jansons?
                                Yes for me I think - though for David Nice, Noddy was the runner-up for anyone who doesn't mind the recording quality


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                                Addendum: I'm finding the Jansons more difficult to hear than the Rozhdestvensky - doesn't seem to be available for streaming; or as a download. Anyone know any different?
                                Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 21-02-16, 18:56.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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