BaL 21.05.11 - Schubert: Piano Trio in B flat, D.898

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  • knodge41

    #16
    Originally posted by knodge41 View Post
    A DVD of both Schubert Trios, performed by the Beaux Arts, was issued in January this year on ICAClassics:



    These recordings took place in the Signet Library, Edinburgh on 21st Nov and 13th Dec 1978.

    The fiming of these performance was, I believe, one of the last activities of the Beaux Arts Trio as the cellist, Bernard Greenhouse retired shorly afterwards.

    I was sorry to hear that Bernard recently died (aged 95) - on May 13.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obit...reenhouse.html
    Correction: I got these dates wrong. The second recording was on 13 Dec 1987, and this was about the time Bernard Greenhouse retired.

    Apologies for this error.

    I should add that there are several films of the Beaux Arts Trio on YouTube and elsewhere on the internet - well worth viewing.

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    • Pianorak
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3128

      #17
      Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
      well i was so looking forward to this and did greatly appreciate the extracts but the coverage of the field was so thin i was left feeling very let down ...
      Cheer up - all you need is this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Schubert-Com...5980373&sr=1-1
      I have been more than happy with the performances when they first came out on the Philips label.
      My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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      • LeMartinPecheur
        Full Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 4717

        #18
        I only caught the last 15 mins or so so can't comment on the whole race, but one thing struck me as a teeny bit surprising about the finish. The top two in the frame, Beaux Arts and Florestan, are US and British, and IIRC a lot of the those that fell at the final fence were French, while the veterans' champion - very unsurprisingly - was a certain French/French/Spanish ensemble. Shortly beforehand, the Suk trio being pulled up was the first bit of the programme I heard.

        Wot! No Austro-German trios up at the front of the field????

        Looking at EA's 1st posting of runners and riders, there weren't that many to come under orders. Is Austro-German chamber music in some sort of decline?

        As for my earlier posting, I can now sit back smugly with my 1960s Beaux Arts and Cortot/ Thibaud/ Casals CDs, and contemplate buying the Florestans only when I somehow get filthy rich...

        ...or become totally converted to digital
        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 9173

          #19
          well i have the Beaux Arts ... but not the Grumiaux ... but also the Weiner Mozart Trio; Heifetz/Lateiner/Piatgorsky; Rubinstein/Fournier/Szerying and La Gaia Scienza and none mentioned at all and have heard the Vienna Piano Trio perform the Eb on r3 ... it was thin coverage ...
          Last edited by aka Calum Da Jazbo; 21-05-11, 17:43.
          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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          • mikealdren
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1205

            #20
            Hi Jazbo,
            The Heifetz version I have is with Rubinstein and Feuermann, is yours a live performance?

            Mike

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            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 9173

              #21
              recorded in RCA Studios Hollywood on Aug 18 & 19 1965, coupled with Brahms Trio No 2 ...issued in the RCA Heifetz Collection No 38

              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20575

                #22
                Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                ...or become totally converted to digital
                This word "digital" is becoming increasingly confused with the word "downloads". CDs are digital; they always have been.

                Downloads are digital recordings, usually with bits missing.

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                • Don Petter

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  This word "digital" is becoming increasingly confused with the word "downloads". CDs are digital; they always have been.

                  Downloads are digital recordings, usually with bits missing.
                  I think the fisher was referring to the fact that the two recordings which he possesses were recorded in the analogue era and subsequently transferred to (digital) CDs, not recorded digitally from the outset (as, for instance, the BAT's second recording).

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                  • LeMartinPecheur
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4717

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                    I think the fisher was referring to the fact that the two recordings which he possesses were recorded in the analogue era and subsequently transferred to (digital) CDs, not recorded digitally from the outset (as, for instance, the BAT's second recording).
                    Thank you DP, you think correctly.
                    I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11759

                      #25
                      The Florestan is marvellous but I still find Casals & T & C best of all .

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20575

                        #26
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        Thank you DP, you think correctly.
                        My sincere apologies. I misinterpreted your post.

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                        • vinteuil
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12955

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                          The Florestan is marvellous but I still find Casals & T & C best of all .
                          yes, I too liked the Florestan, and also his recommendation, the Beaux-Arts - but the two which really caught my attention were those by the Cortot/Casals/Thibaud and the Suk Trio. Both (and also the Beaux-Arts) available very cheaply!!

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                          • visualnickmos
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3614

                            #28
                            Good evening Barbirollians

                            Maybe you are right - but for my money a scratchy old 'outside lavatory' accoustic is not really in the running when it comes to it...

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                            • mikealdren
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1205

                              #29
                              Jazbo, I think you'll find that's the other trio D929 in Ebma rather than D898 in Bbma

                              Mike
                              Last edited by mikealdren; 22-05-11, 21:17.

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                              • Barbirollians
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11759

                                #30
                                Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                                Good evening Barbirollians

                                Maybe you are right - but for my money a scratchy old 'outside lavatory' accoustic is not really in the running when it comes to it...
                                I understand entirely why many would not regard this as a library choice 8 decades on . As a performance however I find it spellbinding and I soon forget any problems with the sound - like Monteux's 1929 Rite,the Krasner/Webern Berg Concerto and Elgar's own recording of his symphony No 1.

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