BaL 23.01.16 - Debussy: Trois Nocturnes

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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #46
    Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
    Well, our reviewer didn't appear to be with Bryn in finding Sirenes to be of lower quality
    Not my view. I was relaying what I had found from reading around. I prefer to hear all three Nocturnes performed in sequence. Of course, it's Fêtes which gets heard most often (as accompaniment to television entertainment).

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    • Gweefry
      Full Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 27

      #47
      Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
      A bit unfair on Stéphane Dénève for being too "ascetic" in sticking to the score (I quite like my Debussy like that)
      Yes, me too. Listening in surround, the wrap-around Sirènes are very present - I just don't hear the supposed asceticism in any of the pieces on the substantial set. Nevertheless, an instructive review.

      I was tempted to hunt out the Fournet from the Supraphon download site (with help from Messrs Google for translation) at a cost of £2.40 for lossless! Lovely to hear the Czech Phil in La Mer. Not at all ascetic - positively full fat!
      Last edited by Gweefry; 23-01-16, 14:24.

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      • ardcarp
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11102

        #48
        An enjoyable BAL. I got the impression that, especially in Fetes, JJ valued dash and elan over Rolls Royce sound, ensemble and accuracy. Yet he finally opted for the Berlin Phil. I thought the Sirenes female voices in his choice were excellent, BTW.

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        • LeMartinPecheur
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          • Apr 2007
          • 4717

          #49
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          Not my view. I was relaying what I had found from reading around.
          Delighted to hear it - apologies for the misconstruction!
          I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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          • pastoralguy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7740

            #50
            My first experience of the 'Nocturnes' was hearing 'Fetes' played as an encore on a TV performance given by Solti and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. I videotaped it on our new fangled video machine and watched it over and over again, marvelling at the control Solti had over the players. His smile to the trumpets after their playing of the march theme has stuck with me over the years.

            I'm pretty sure it's available on dvd so I should look it out.

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            • peterkin
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              • Jun 2015
              • 33

              #51
              Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
              My first experience of the 'Nocturnes' was hearing 'Fetes' played as an encore on a TV performance given by Solti and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. I videotaped it on our new fangled video machine and watched it over and over again, marvelling at the control Solti had over the players. His smile to the trumpets after their playing of the march theme has stuck with me over the years.

              I'm pretty sure it's available on dvd so I should look it out.
              £13 odd from amazon marketplace?

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              • pastoralguy
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7740

                #52
                Originally posted by peterkin View Post
                £13 odd from amazon marketplace?
                I'll add it to my (very long!) wish list!

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                • Petrushka
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12241

                  #53
                  Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                  My first experience of the 'Nocturnes' was hearing 'Fetes' played as an encore on a TV performance given by Solti and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. I videotaped it on our new fangled video machine and watched it over and over again, marvelling at the control Solti had over the players. His smile to the trumpets after their playing of the march theme has stuck with me over the years.

                  I'm pretty sure it's available on dvd so I should look it out.
                  Hi PG,

                  I was present at this 1985 concert and the Debussy was indeed an encore. It's available on DVD here: http://www.icaclassics.com/legacy-dv...ny-orchestra-1
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • pastoralguy
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7740

                    #54
                    Wow! It looked a great occasion. What a band!

                    I'll pop into the library and see if it's available before purchasing it.

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #55
                      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                      My first experience of the 'Nocturnes' was hearing 'Fetes' played as an encore on a TV performance given by Solti and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. I videotaped it on our new fangled video machine and watched it over and over again, marvelling at the control Solti had over the players. His smile to the trumpets after their playing of the march theme has stuck with me over the years.

                      I'm pretty sure it's available on dvd so I should look it out.
                      Those were the days my friends! :)
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                        Those were the days my friends! :)
                        We thought they'd never end..........

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                        • ardcarp
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11102

                          #57
                          Interesting cross-fertilisation invloving 'Nocturme', i.e Chopin - Whistler - Debussy.

                          In 1872, Whistler credited his patron Frederick Leyland, an amateur musician devoted to Chopin, for his musically inspired titles.

                          "I say I can't thank you too much for the name 'Nocturne' as a title for my moonlights! You have no idea what an irritation it proves to the critics and consequent pleasure to me........"

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            #58
                            I didn't hear the end of this BaL, I have just heard my recording of the Haitink(The Philips Years edition), and was wondering where Haitink's recording came, was thought of....?
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              I didn't hear the end of this BaL, I have just heard my recording of the Haitink(The Philips Years edition), and was wondering where Haitink's recording came, was thought of....?
                              I played my CD of the Haitink yesterday and thought it was head and shoulders above the Abbado BPO (which I listened to a couple of times last week).

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                                I didn't hear the end of this BaL, I have just heard my recording of the Haitink(The Philips Years edition), and was wondering where Haitink's recording came, was thought of....?
                                Bronze medal, Bbm - failing for the reviewer because he found the women's choir not as alluring as others. (Tortellier = Silver; Abbado/BPO = Gold.)
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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