BaL 23.01.16 - Debussy: Trois Nocturnes

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    BaL 23.01.16 - Debussy: Trois Nocturnes

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    Julian Johnson recommends a recording of Debussy's Nocturnes. Inspired by the way painters including Turner, Whistler and his French impressionist contemporaries dealt with light, Debussy used an orchestral palette to evoke the slowly changing movement of clouds, a riotous festival, and a silvered moonlit seascape. The music, at once brilliantly orchestrated and subtle, is a demanding test which separates the sheep from the goats among orchestras, conductors and recording engineers.


    Available versions:-


    Berliner Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado
    Berliner Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Boston Symphony Orchestra, Claudio Abbado
    BBC Symphony Orchestra, Ernest Ansermet
    L’Orchestre de la Suisse Romande, Ernest Ansermet
    Cleveland Orchestra, Vladimir Ashkenazy
    L'Orchestre de Paris, Daniel Barenboim
    Concertgebouw Orchestra, Eduard van Beinum
    Cologne Radio Symphony Orchestra, Gary Bertini
    Cleveland Orchestra, Pierre Boulez
    London Symphony Orchestra, Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
    New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Guido Cantelli
    Philharmonia Orchestra, Guido Cantelli
    Orchestre National de France, Andre Cluytens
    Paris Conservatoire Orchestra, Piero Coppola
    Boston Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis
    Royal Scottish National Orchestra, Stéphane Denève
    National Symphony Orchestra of Washington, Antal Dorati
    Orchestre symphonique de Montréal, Charles Dutoit
    Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, Jean Fournet
    Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Wilhelm Furtwängler
    Philharmonia Orchestra, Carlo Maria Giulini
    Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink
    Orchestre National de la Radiodiffusion Française, Désiré-Emile Inghelbrecht
    Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra, Paavo Jarvi
    Orchestre Philharmonique du Luxembourg, Emmanuel Krivine
    Cleveland Orchestra, Lorin Maazel
    Wiener Philharmoniker, Lorin Maazel
    Lyon National Orchestra, Jun Markl
    Boston Symphony Orchestra, Pierre Monteux
    Philadelphia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy
    Detroit Symphony Orchestra, Paul Paray
    Rundfunk-Sinfonie-Orchester Leipzig, Max Pommer (download)
    London Symphony Orchestra, Andre Previn
    Belgian Radio and Television Philharmonic Orchestra, Alexander Rahbari
    Belgian Radio and Television Philharmonic Orchestra, Alexander Rahbari (DVD)
    Kölner Rundfunk-Sinfonie-Orchester, Hans Rosbaud
    Orchestre du Théâtre National de l’Opéra de Paris, Manuel Rosenthal
    Orchestre de la Société des concerts du Conservatoire, Constantin Silvestri
    Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Sir Georg Solti (download)
    London Symphony Orchestra, Leopold Stokowski
    Philadelphia Orchestra, Leopold Stokowski
    Stokowski Symphony Orchestra, Leopold Stokowski
    Philharmonia Orchestra Evgeny Svetlanov
    Brussels Philharmonic, Michel Tabachnik
    Ulster Orchestra, Yan Pascal Tortelier
    NBC Symphony Orchestra, Arturo Toscanini
    South West German Radio Symphony Orchestra, Baden-Baden, Hans Zender
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 23-01-16, 17:24.
  • rauschwerk
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1480

    #2
    I bought Jonathan Swain's 2003 recommendation (Plasson, nla) but quickly sold it when I discovered that the chorus sang flat! Having since acquired Previn, Giulini and Haitink, I'm not sure that I want another version.

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    • antongould
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      • Nov 2010
      • 8780

      #3
      Happenstance is a scary thing - I hadn't seen this and this morning decided to revisit the Bruckner symphonies and went to Apple Music and took a look at a Furtwangler 4 - 9 set which for some weird reason has 2 of the Noctures in - which I love. So I took the Abbado Berliners on my frosty morning walk ... Bliss ....

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12239

        #4
        I've got Boston SO/Abbado, Chicago SO/Solti, Cleveland Orch/Boulez, Concertgebouw/Haitink and Philharmonia/Giulini. For great recorded sound and great performance my choice would be Haitink and the Concertgebouw, a classic of the gramophone.

        I must confess that I wasn't aware that Abbado had recorded it with the BPO. As I saw him conduct this piece at the Proms (1980 I think) I'll search this one out.
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • richardfinegold
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 7656

          #5
          I have the Haitink referenced above, and it is very good. however, my top pick would be Paul Paray and the Detroit SO

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          • LeMartinPecheur
            Full Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 4717

            #6
            Wot, no Martinon?!?

            (Martinon, Haitink and Giulini are probably enough to keep me happy.)

            Seems like it's still on the Riverpeople website in various couplings, as long as you don't include 'Nocturnes' in what you search for (you know it makes sense!). "Debussy Martinon" will being up several, this for example:
            I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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            • gurnemanz
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7382

              #7
              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
              I have the Haitink referenced above, and it is very good. however, my top pick would be Paul Paray and the Detroit SO
              That Haitink Duo set with Concertgebouw was an early CD purchase. Something of a classic and still available at a snip.

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              • Alison
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 6455

                #8
                Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                That Haitink Duo set with Concertgebouw was an early CD purchase. Something of a classic and still available at a snip.
                yes, the sound of the late 70s Concertgebouw is a near miraculous match for Debussy's endlessly subtle score.

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                • HighlandDougie
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3082

                  #9
                  My Debussyphilia might explain why I seem to have no fewer than 18 of the recordings on the list or mentioned (I also bought the Plasson), starting with the van Beinum, bought when I was an impecunious teenager. I almost wore out the Abbado/Boston LP but then Haitink came along (Gramophone awards for best engineering and best orchestral release in 1980). I've recently rediscovered the earlier Boulez and have been reminded of the Giulini, as well as splashing out in Japan on an SACD of the Haitink. Of those, the Haitink is the one I keep going back to but I would also wave a flag for Stephane Deneve, very well played and recorded with Deneve's characteristic care for the score.

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                  • verismissimo
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    #10
                    I got out the Boston/Abbado recording on an LP that I've had since it came out 45 years ago (recorded 1970).

                    Was it his first? Still next door to perfection IMO.

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11671

                      #11
                      Barbirolli's ODP recording unavailable ? An outrage !

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12795

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        Wot, no Martinon?!?
                        ... if you like your de Bussy alla Martinon - this is a good way in :

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22115

                          #13
                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ... if you like your de Bussy alla Martinon - this is a good way in :

                          http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000BL99UK
                          There's the very good Monteux LSO - unfortunately only the Nuages and Fetes.

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11671

                            #14

                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            Barbirolli's ODP recording unavailable ? An outrage !
                            Joking apart I also have the BSO/Abbado , Giulini and the Haitink . All marvellous .

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #15
                              I am looking forward to this Bal very much.
                              A first look on the shelf shows:

                              Abbado BPO
                              Boulez Cleveland
                              Monteaux LSO (Nuage & Fetes only)
                              Haitink - Concertcertgecertgebgebouwwow
                              Rahbari - BRT orchestra & Chorus

                              I fancy getting the Martinon, but purely to augment the Ravel set I bought in the summer, so I might desist here.

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