BaL 23.01.16 - Debussy: Trois Nocturnes

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  • Bryn
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    • Mar 2007
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    #16
    The justly famed Haitink recording has appeared in various re-masterings, including even an SACD version. I would not be surprised to see it turn up on Blu-ray Audio.

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    • Pulcinella
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      • Feb 2014
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      #17
      There are surely two Cleveland/Boulez recordings: DG and Sony.
      I have the Sony (big box) one, along with Giulini, Haitink, and Martinon.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #18
        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
        There are surely two Cleveland/Boulez recordings: DG and Sony.


        I have the Sony (big box) one, along with Giulini, Haitink, and Martinon.
        Impressive selection, Pulci - you just need the later Boulez and Abbado now!
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Pulcinella
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          • Feb 2014
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          #19
          Correction: I have just taken the Sony Boulez box down from the shelf, and the orchestra is The New Philharmonia Orchestra with The John Alldis Choir.

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          • Beef Oven!
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            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #20
            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
            There are surely two Cleveland/Boulez recordings: DG and Sony.
            I have the Sony (big box) one, along with Giulini, Haitink, and Martinon.
            Yes, I have the DG. I think I had the Sony at some point.

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
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              #21
              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              Correction: I have just taken the Sony Boulez box down from the shelf, and the orchestra is The New Philharmonia Orchestra with The John Alldis Choir.
              I'm pretty sure I had/have this (a very long time ago, IIRC). It says Cleveland and New Philharmonia. I don't know who does what on this CD!



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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #22
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                I'm pretty sure I had/have this (a very long time ago, IIRC). It says Cleveland and New Philharmonia. I don't know who does what on this CD!
                I have that very set! (Well - my own copy of it, that is - I'm not the cause of your not being able to find your copy!) The print on the CD itself, and on the label on the back of the jewel case both say that it is the New Phil used for all CD1 (La Mer, the Nocturnes, Printemps and the Clarinet Rhapsody (and for Jeux and the Faune's siesta on CD2. I had (like Pulci) just "remembered" the Cleveland Orch being used throughout. (Did Boulez ever work with the New/Not-New-anymore Phil again?)

                Damn fine performances, wha'evva.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • visualnickmos
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  I am looking forward to this Bal very much.
                  A first look on the shelf shows:

                  Abbado BPO
                  Boulez Cleveland
                  Monteaux LSO (Nuage & Fetes only)
                  Haitink - Concertcertgecertgebgebouwwow
                  Rahbari - BRT orchestra & Chorus

                  I fancy getting the Martinon, but purely to augment the Ravel set I bought in the summer, so I might desist here.
                  Why couldn't they 'do' the 3rd one? GRRRRRR!!!!!!

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                  • Beef Oven!
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                    • Sep 2013
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                    Why couldn't they 'do' the 3rd one? GRRRRRR!!!!!!
                    Yes, I share you frustration!!

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                      Why couldn't they 'do' the 3rd one? GRRRRRR!!!!!!
                      Perhaps Monteux and co. were trying to recreate the version given at the works first performance. The public had to wait some 10 months or so to hear a performance including Sirènes, or perhaps there was no chorus available at the time of the recording.

                      More likely is that Monteux, along with many others, thought Sirènes, which the composer tinkered with more than just about anything else he wrote, not up to scratch.

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                      • Pulcinella
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                        • Feb 2014
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        (Did Boulez ever work with the New/Not-New-anymore Phil again?)
                        Yes: http://www.discogs.com/Pierre-Boulez...elease/4671363

                        Beethoven 5, and Calm Sea....

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                        • Petrushka
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          Did Boulez ever work with the New/Not-New-anymore Phil again?
                          He recorded his own Livre pour cordes with the strings of the New Philharmonia though this did puzzle me when I got the second hand Sony CD as there was nothing else recorded by them together.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                            • Sep 2011
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            He recorded his own Livre pour cordes with the strings of the New Philharmonia though this did puzzle me when I got the second hand Sony CD as there was nothing else recorded by them together.
                            many thanks, both - there's also the Bartok Piano Concertos 1 & 3 with Barenboim, too.
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • BBMmk2
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
                              I bought Jonathan Swain's 2003 recommendation (Plasson, nla) but quickly sold it when I discovered that the chorus sang flat! Having since acquired Previn, Giulini and Haitink, I'm not sure that I want another version.
                              I might just see about that Previn version! I have the Abbado and Haitink
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • Beef Oven!
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                                • Sep 2013
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                                I am looking forward to this Bal very much.
                                A first look on the shelf shows:

                                Abbado BPO
                                Boulez Cleveland
                                Monteux LSO (Nuage & Fetes only)
                                Haitink - Concertcertgecertgebgebouwwow
                                Rahbari - BRT orchestra & Chorus

                                I fancy getting the Martinon, but purely to augment the Ravel set I bought in the summer, so I might desist here.
                                I ordered the Martinon this morning.

                                Are they're drying-out clinics for CD addicts?

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