BaL 2.01.16 - Beethoven: Symphony no. 5 in C minor

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Oh, whoops, I'd forgotten my grandad's 78s - anyone fancy VPO/ Schalk?? Doesn't seem to have made it onto EA's list for some strange reason - did he get red-carded again for fiddling with the orchestration and making cuts?

I still have that version, but it isn't on the list of available recordings.

[LeMartinPecheur]

I still have that version, but it isn't on the list of available recordings.

I checked. You can still get his 8th though.

[aeolium]

A phenomenal effort for the listing, EA, but the recording that was my very first encounter with this work, Steinberg with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra (perhaps on an MfP or CfP label) is not there. I'm pretty sure it is still available on an EMI Icon set of Steinberg recordings, and possibly separately also.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

A phenomenal effort for the listing, EA, but the recording that was my very first encounter with this work, Steinberg with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra (perhaps on an MfP or CfP label) is not there. I'm pretty sure it is still available on an EMI Icon set of Steinberg recordings, and possibly separately also.

I can find only this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0080F9Y5Y/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

[Bryn]

I can find only this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...condition=used

How about this:



and also, as a download, here.

[aeolium]

I can find only this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...condition=used

There's also this in the ICON series:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/William-Steinberg-ICON/dp/B005AAVFG8

and according to one of the reviewers Beethoven 5 is on the second disc of that set.

[Bryn]

There's also this in the ICON series:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/William-Steinberg-ICON/dp/B005AAVFG8

and according to one of the reviewers Beethoven 5 is on the second disc of that set.

It is indeed. I have the set. Full listing here.

However, the Icon set seems not to be a current Warner title, so the download might well be the only version with recognised current availability.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

There's also this in the ICON series:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/William-Steinberg-ICON/dp/B005AAVFG8

and according to one of the reviewers Beethoven 5 is on the second disc of that set.

There seem to be quite a few people selling this, so I'll add it to the list.

[Dave2002]

The reviewer thinks it's obvious that the last movement has to be grand and majestic (re Pletnev's performance which he demonstrated is faster). I accept the view that going too fast early on may lead to other problems later on, but I think the reviewer's stated view can be challenged. It is not obvious! It is perhaps just the reviewer's opinion, and not necessarily more valid than the views of the conductors who do it differently.

[Bryn]

The reviewer thinks it's obvious that the last movement has to be grand and majestic (re Pletnev's performance which he demonstrated is faster). I accept the view that going too fast early on may lead to other problems later on, but I think the reviewer's stated view can be challenged. It is not obvious! It is perhaps just the reviewer's opinion, and not necessarily more valid than the views of the conductors who do it differently.

Not the only such assertion on his part. The metronome reference was of the same ilk, as were the spiritual connections. Difficult to object to his final choice, as a library recommendation, however.

[Barbirollians]

Not the only such assertion on his part. The metronome reference was of the same ilk, as were the spiritual connections. Difficult to object to his final choice, as a library recommendation, however.

I thought his dismissal of the metronome marks on the basis of one quote would ruffle feathers on here !

I rather enjoyed the presentation and it remains extraordinary that the selected recording keeps on winning but every extract played explained why . I have not listened to it for too long .An omission that requires rectifying .

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

So what's the Eroica got that the 5th hasn't - in terms of discussable recordings?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

So what's the Eroica got that the 5th hasn't - in terms of discussable recordings?

Clearly, a great deal. Where is everyone?

I've been listening to the broadcast on iPlayer, and it's a most refreshing review. I couldn't really see the point of the inclusion of Walter Murphy and the Big Apple Band's version, but otherwise I was hooked.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Clearly, a great deal. Where is everyone?

I didn't understand the question

I've been listening to the broadcast on iPlayer, and it's a most refreshing review. I couldn't really see the point of the inclusion of Walter Murphy and the Big Apple Band's version, but otherwise I was hooked.

Not quite so hooked here - I was a bit irritated by the continual reference to "HIPP-lite", and the traditional sneer at Karajan, as well as the gratiuitous disco snippet that you refer to. (But then, with so few versions available, I suppose he had to fill the time somehow ) No real quarrel with his final choice, though.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I didn't understand the question

I just meant that there doesn't seem to be the level of interested generated by the Eroica Symphony review. By this time on the review day of that work, we had had over 150 posts, and they were coming in thick and fast.

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?12700-BaL-31-01-15-Beethoven-Symphony-no-3-in-E-flat-quot-Eroica-quot/page8