BaL 19.12.15 - Nielsen: Symphony no. 6

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    BaL 19.12.15 - Nielsen: Symphony no. 6

    0930 Building a Library
    Stephen Johnson surveys recordings of Nielsen's Symphony No.6, his "Sinfonia semplice", and makes a personal recommendation. The composer himself thought the symphony more 'amiable and smooth' than his others, but because it has a different, more simple structure than his previous symphonic works (hence the subtitle), it was not terribly well received at the premiere and sadly has remained the least performed of his symphonies.

    Available versions:

    Royal Danish Orchestra, Paavo Berglund
    Danish Radio Symphony Orchestra, Herbert Blomstedt
    San Francisco Symphony Orchestra, Herbert Blomstedt
    Danish National Symphony Orchestra, Thomas Dausgaard
    Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra, Douglas Bostock (download)
    London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis
    New York Philharmonic, Alan Gilbert
    Janácek Philharmonic Orchestra, Theodore Kuchar
    Göteborgs Symfoniker, Neeme Järvi
    Frankfurt Radio Symphony, Paavo Järvi
    The Danish Radio Symphony Orchestra, Thomas Jensen
    Janácek Philharmonic Orchestra, Theodore Kuchar (download)
    Ireland National Symphony Orchestra, Adrian Leaper (download)
    Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Tor Mann
    Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Sakari Oramo
    Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Gennady Rozhdestvensky
    Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra, Esa-Pekka Salonen (download)
    London Symphony Orchestra, Ole Schmidt
    Danish National Symphony Orchestra / DR, Michael Schønwandt (DVD)
    Danish National Symphony Orchestra / DR, Michael Schønwandt (download)
    BBC Philharmonic, John Storgårds
    BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra, Osmo Vänskä
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 19-12-15, 10:39.
  • Roehre

    #2
    Only 6 recordings without a Scandinavian connection

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    • kea
      Full Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 749

      #3
      My favourite of the six for quite some time, actually. With this and the two wind concerti I find myself always wondering where Nielsen would have ended up in 1940—the relationship of those three to the rest of his work is similar to that of late Beethoven to middle-period.

      (I have Schmidt, Blomstedt-Decca, Schønwandt-Dacapo and Oramo—the other two conductors contributing Nielsen symphonies to my collection, Chung and Bernstein, didn't record it.)

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      • richardfinegold
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 7737

        #4
        I thought the Gilbert as the best of his otherwise tepid cycle. Otherwise the two Blomstedts and a Horenstein on YouTube are my choices.

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        • Tevot
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1011

          #5
          It is a beautiful, mordant and haunting symphony isn't it? I remember the Ole Schmidt recording fondly. I'm surprised that Chung didn't record it. I wonder why?

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          • HighlandDougie
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3106

            #6
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Danish National Symphony Orchestra, Thomas Dausgaard
            I wish! Unless there is a recording somewhere I don't know about (and I'd be delighted if that were the case), I suspect that Danacord's repackaging of the Schønwandt cycles with Dausgaard's single Nielsen disc may have caused some confusion as to who conducts what. I'm sorry - for nostalgia's sake - that the Siegfried Landau/Westchester Symphony Orchestra recording on Vox/Turnabout seems never to have made it to CD but it wouldn't really compete with the likes of Gilbert and especially Oramo.

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            • Roehre

              #7
              Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
              ... I'm sorry - for nostalgia's sake - that the Siegfried Landau/Westchester Symphony Orchestra recording on Vox/Turnabout seems never to have made it to CD ....
              The LP through which I got acquainted with the work, lent to someone, never returned
              That was quite a time before Blomstedt/EMI appeared, the cycle which I still cherish.

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              • seabright
                Full Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 626

                #8
                Stokowski conducted the Nielsen 6th just once in his career, for a 1965 BBC Maida Vale broadcast with the New Philharmonia. During the interval, Deryck Cooke asked him what he thought of the work and Stokowski freely admitted he didn't understand it. Even Cooke himself said it was "a particular strange symphony," as can be heard in their interview in this You Tube upload ...

                In 1965, Leopold Stokowski conducted a Maida Vale studio concert which included his only performance of Nielsen's 6th Symphony. During the break, he was inte...


                The Nielsen performance was issued on a BBC Legends CD and can still be obtained via Amazon, at a starting price of £3.23, despite it being "unavailable" ...

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                • verismissimo
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2957

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tevot View Post
                  It is a beautiful, mordant and haunting symphony isn't it? I remember the Ole Schmidt recording fondly...
                  I've only ever had the Schmidt on an ancient Unicorn LP. Photo of conductor on the back cover lowering at us. He must have been a scary prospect to play for...

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #10
                    Originally posted by seabright View Post
                    Stokowski conducted the Nielsen 6th just once in his career, for a 1965 BBC Maida Vale broadcast with the New Philharmonia. ... The Nielsen performance was issued on a BBC Legends CD and can still be obtained via Amazon, at a starting price of £3.23, despite it being "unavailable" ...

                    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stokowski-co.../dp/B000056P0P
                    Not any more, it's not (the very low starter price, that is). My fault.

                    What a shame. It appears that Hans Abrahamsen's reduced instrumentation arrangement has not been recorded commercially. I rather liked it when the BBCSSO/Manze played it earlier this year.
                    Last edited by Bryn; 12-12-15, 18:56.

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                    • seabright
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 626

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Not any more, it's not (the very low starter price, that is). My fault.
                      What exactly is the definition of "unavailable"? We're constantly being entreated by the BBC to visit their website, which must mean they think we all have computers and know how to surf the internet. Yet when a record is listed as being "unavailable" it usually only takes a few seconds of Googling to find it on Amazon or Ebay or on individual record dealers' websites either here or abroad. That applies to 78s and LPs too, should there be collectors who still wish to buy them. The Stokowski Nielsen 6th is also readily "available" on You Tube and can be downloaded from there as well, now that the Amazon starting price is £10.20, thanks to Bryn! ...

                      Support us on Patreon and get more content: https://www.patreon.com/classicalvault --- Carl NielsenSymphony No 6, Sinfonia sempliceNew Philharmonia Orchestra...

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                      • Roehre

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        ...

                        What a shame. It appears that Hans Abrahamsen's reduced instrumentation arrangement has not been recorded commercially. I rather liked it when the BBCSSO/Manze played it earlier this year.
                        As I did

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #13
                          I have Blomstedt's Decca, and Storgards and Neeme Jarvi's(off the top[ of my head)) All part of the Northern Light's Festival.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • verismissimo
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2957

                            #14
                            What a strange, enigmatic work this is. Perhaps less so after Saturday morning... Though I do find Stephen Johnson's style a bit hard to take. He does tend to be addressing a crowd rather than managing to speak to us as individuals. Or is that just me?

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                            • gurnemanz
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7405

                              #15
                              Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                              What a strange, enigmatic work this is. Perhaps less so after Saturday morning... Though I do find Stephen Johnson's style a bit hard to take. He does tend to be addressing a crowd rather than managing to speak to us as individ;uals. Or is that just me?
                              ... maybe following the example of Gladstone of whom Queen Victoria reportedly said: He speaks to me as if I were a public meeting.

                              Whilst here, I notice no one has mentioned the well-regarded Theodore Kuchar set yet, which is reasonably priced on Brilliant. It's my only version so I can't make an informed recommendation but it sounds very good to me, well played by the Janácek Philharmonic Orchestra, in a modern recording with a beautifully clear acoustic and finely balanced sound.

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