BaL 12.12.15 - Sibelius: Symphony no. 1 in E minor

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  • visualnickmos
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3609

    #76
    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
    .....Lenny sounded marvellous
    It is - as are all his Sibelius VPO recordings, of which he didn't quite make it to a complete set.
    The reviewer, I think, wrote off Bernstein as being 'too heavy' for her taste. For 'too heavy' I read 'full of passion' and 'heartfelt'.... (and fabulously recorded sound)


    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
    but for some reason the Karajan has totally capture my imagination and I'll be spinning it as soon as this programme finishes!
    Yes - another one that stands out - there is something rather addictive in hearing Karajan 'doing' Sibelius - whereas Bernstein is full of passion, HvK is full of a certain sense of mystery - almost other-worldly fantasy...... I love 'em both

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    • Beef Oven!
      Ex-member
      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      #77
      Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
      It is - as are all his Sibelius VPO recordings, of which he didn't quite make it to a complete set.
      The reviewer, I think, wrote off Bernstein as being 'too heavy' for her taste. For 'too heavy' I read 'full of passion' and 'heartfelt'.... (and fabulously recorded sound)




      Yes - another one that stands out - there is something rather addictive in hearing Karajan 'doing' Sibelius - whereas Bernstein is full of passion, HvK is full of a certain sense of mystery - almost other-worldly fantasy...... I love 'em both

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26514

        #78
        Belatedly caught up with this BAL... and this thread. Good review, I thought. Strange that despite having lived with the Vanska/Lahti set since not long after it came out, and having a number of other versions, I'd never really taken on board that the Vanska approach is so much quicker and punchier than the norm.

        I've had the Storgards set since it was issued, too, and agree about its excellence.

        The reading that I don't know which really caught my ears was the Jansons/Oslo performance, sounded magical. That's the one I might add to the collection....
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • DublinJimbo
          Full Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1222

          #79
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          The reading that I don't know which really caught my ears was the Jansons/Oslo performance, sounded magical. That's the one I might add to the collection....
          That was my reaction too. I sourced a reasonably priced download on Qobuz of a twofer with symphonies 1, 2, 3 and 5, and look forward to listening to it.

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #80
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            Belatedly caught up with this BAL... and this thread. Good review, I thought. Strange that despite having lived with the Vanska/Lahti set since not long after it came out, and having a number of other versions, I'd never really taken on board that the Vanska approach is so much quicker and punchier than the norm.

            Same here.



            I've had the Storgards set since it was issued, too, and agree about its excellence.
            Not been swayed by what I've heard so far. I was thinking there might be some hyping going on, but a few forumites have given the thumbs up so perhaps it's my ears.

            The reading that I don't know which really caught my ears was the Jansons/Oslo performance, sounded magical. That's the one I might add to the collection....
            Surprisingly it was the HvK that caught my ears.

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            • ahinton
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              • Nov 2010
              • 16122

              #81
              Not having heard the programme I cannot comment on it, but although I have invariably found that a pretty much ideal interpreter of any Sibelius orchestral music is a conductor mentioned in the OP list and whose forename rhymes with the affected mispronunciation of that of one of the composer's younger contemporaries, no one appears to have mentioned his recording; what did the presenter have to say about it?

              A stunning Tapiola from him was broadcast on CoTW the other day...

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              • HighlandDougie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3079

                #82
                Harder than that damned quiz which appears every year in the Grauniad (or at least it used to) but, yes, the Man-Mountain (aka Leif Segerstam) mentioned favourably (rightly so, IMV) and illustrated, too.

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26514

                  #83
                  Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                  Not having heard the programme I cannot comment on it, but although I have invariably found that a pretty much ideal interpreter of any Sibelius orchestral music is a conductor mentioned in the OP list and whose forename rhymes with the affected mispronunciation of that of one of the composer's younger contemporaries, no one appears to have mentioned his recording; what did the presenter have to say about it?
                  I hope we can expect this to feature as a practical example in Chapter 1 of "Hinton's Straight-Talking For Beginners", ah? (I assume such a volume must be imminent).
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • verismissimo
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    I hope we can expect this to feature as a practical example in Chapter 1 of "Hinton's Straight-Talking For Beginners", ah? (I assume such a volume must be imminent).
                    Try as I might, just can't get anything to rhyme with Malcolm, Cali.

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                    • MickyD
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4744

                      #85
                      How about Talcum? (as in powder)

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #86
                        Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                        How about Talcum? (as in powder)
                        Bought from a shop in Salcombe?
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • cincinnatus
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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 41

                          #87
                          Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                          How about Talcum? (as in powder)
                          'A bit of talcum is always walcum.' Ogden Nash

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26514

                            #88
                            Originally posted by cincinnatus View Post
                            'A bit of talcum is always walcum.' Ogden Nash
                            An explanation of veris's reference to Malcolm, would also be walcum...
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11661

                              #89
                              Indeed , there was no mention of Sir Malcolm's version so highly rated by HS .

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26514

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                                Sir Malcolm
                                Ah!
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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