BaL 5.12.15 - Schubert: Mass No. 6 in E flat, D950

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  • gurnemanz
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7405

    #61
    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    How kind



    Ah yes - I see what you mean! It's the lilting triple feel of the compound time signatures, of course, which is the most obvious fellow-feeling (I see from scores available online that the Berlioz is actually in 6/8 whereas the Schubert is in 12/8, but the lilt is the same).

    I've spent quite a bit of time today comparing the leading 'contenders' using iTunes Music and other sites. (In passing, I've discovered the first two instances of recordings being available to buy on iTunes, but not being available to stream via iTunes Music (the Hickox and the Harnoncourt/Berlin recordings) - I thought if you could buy it, you could stream it).

    I've come to the clear conclusion that the earlier Dresden recording on Phillips by Sawallisch is by some margin my favourite one. The tenor soloists are if anything more magical than the two Brits mentioned earlier; the choral style is FAR preferable to my ears than the other Sawallisch version (not keen on the Bavarian matrons), the overall recorded sound is likewise preferable to the other contenders (esp the Berlin Harnoncourt which has an oddly boomy/muddy lower register to the sound which is disagreeable). But above all, there's an extra dimension of ... not sure what to call it.... sublimity is one word that occurs to me, it seems to have a lot to do with the orchestra's contribution, the heart-stopping beauty of the woodwind for instance (that clarinet solo in the Incarnatus est duet)... After my mini-BAL today, all the others are in the shade, and it's the Phillips recording under the magician Sawallisch that's going to draw my money from my wallet (FLAC downloads on Presto Classical).

    As I think I said before: revelatory!
    Very interested to read your comments. I have never got to know the recording but am now tempted. The Leipzig Rundfunkchor was one of the best choirs around at the time - early 1970s. I notice that Hans-Joachim Rotzsch who just after that became Thomaskantor in Leipzig (ie Bach's successor) does the second tenor on D950.

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    • teamsaint
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      • Nov 2010
      • 25225

      #62
      " Rumpole Recommends" is available on Youtube, for those feeling the pre Xmas pinch.

      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25225

        #63



        6.59 used Euros delivered from amazon DE.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
          • 11751

          #64
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          http://www.amazon.de/Messe-d-950-Don...wallisch+messe


          6.59 used Euros delivered from amazon DE.

          Here it is in full - absolutely wonderful stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4r7vjI1s-o

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          • vinteuil
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12936

            #65
            Originally posted by Kamisama View Post
            ...a few months ago I purchased a used digipak reissue of the Sawallisch recording on Philips for 19p (+p&p) from Zoverstocks. The price is currently still reasonable:
            http://www.amazon.co.uk/Schubert-Cho.../dp/B0000060B7

            ... many thanks for the nudge, Kamisama - I have followed suit : a very economical way to get the 1971 philips Sawallisch. Mine cost £1.61 - and cheap copies still seem to be available -



            - especially since the cheap option flagged up by teamsaint in his #63 seems to have been snaffled by now

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            • teamsaint
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              • Nov 2010
              • 25225

              #66
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ... many thanks for the nudge, Kamisama - I have followed suit : a very economical way to get the 1971 philips Sawallisch. Mine cost £1.61 - and cheap copies still seem to be available -



              - especially since the cheap option flagged up by teamsaint in his #63 seems to have been snaffled by now
              My copy was hand delivered from Germany today, and very fine it is too.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • HighlandDougie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3106

                #67
                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                My copy was hand delivered from Germany today, and very fine it is too.
                I didn't quite get Postmann Pat in lederhosen hand delivering it (is that something you have to pay for?) but also received my copy a couple of days ago. As TS says, "very fine" - and I really didn't notice those egregious edits. A work I didn't know at all so am very happy to be at the receiving end of CD Review's wisdom, even if in that less than satisfactory gabbling at each other format

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                • Nick Armstrong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26572

                  #68
                  Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                  I didn't quite get Postmann Pat in lederhosen hand delivering it (is that something you have to pay for?) but also received my copy a couple of days ago. As TS says, "very fine" - and I really didn't notice those egregious edits. A work I didn't know at all so am very happy to be at the receiving end of CD Review's wisdom



                  Mind you, this version didn't "win" (so silly to have relegated it due to 'all those edits...' ) ... and hence the additional wisdom of
                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  the Sage of Nottingham
                  plus Kamisama's eye for a bargain, were to some extent behind all this heartwarming satisfaction






                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11751

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post



                    Mind you, this version didn't "win" (so silly to have relegated it due to 'all those edits...' ) ... and hence the additional wisdom of

                    plus Kamisama's eye for a bargain, were to some extent behind all this heartwarming satisfaction






                    It seemed to be relegated by McGregor rather than Summerly who said if you don't mind the edits this is the one to have - at £1.46 plus p and p I am jolly happy to have it !

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